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Re: Lego and Disney, a continued future?
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Fri, 31 May 2002 19:06:20 GMT
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Hum... Hum... Hum...
Does this not go against the core idea of 'lego imagination'?
Sure all the products described below would be great for both disney and
lego fans but does that NOT defeat the purpose of having a cild imagaine and
build his own version of say the tinker bell castle? Perhaps exapnding and
making extra parts (via bulks or other wise) more affortable is a better way
to go.
You see as soon as you stamp the lego/diseny logo on a box that IS limiting
the IMAGINATION of a child. let me explain a bit.
a) you buy a child an wild wild west set and that child will most likely
start imaging other scence/sets he can build that are in that time-frame.
Being them wagons, forts, indian house, etc... You the child has a big
imaginable world to play in. This is good.
b) you buy a child a star wars set (say x-wing). Now the imagainzation
world is a bit more limited not becuase the 'world' is smaller but becauce
he is not going to imagine or create is OWN version of tie fighter to go up
against his x-wing. Why should he, he can go get a TIE. The world of sw is
big but the child will beging to focus only on what he can see in other
store sets. He won't dream of making a sw-ike car that flys you he?
Probabaly not since it's not star warish... (well perhaps after seeing EP2
he might). But you undersatnd the point his mindset is getting focuses on a
limited imagainary world.
now you do a disney set, say the tinker bell castle? first is child had NOT
gone to disney he has no clue what the castle looks liek ro what else is
around the castle so he can't mold anything else. Next, okay he builds the
castle (being that the real one is a shell) what is he going to build in the
sindes of it? If you make it playable, then I will be a challenge to make it
lok like the castle. Next their is NOT much room for imagination.
Tinkerbell flys and uses magic? Hum.. How do you model that in lego? Okay
perhaps you can image that you are peterpan or a frind of peterpan and you
and peter pan and tinkerbell live in the castle. Is THIS PLAYING with
legos? ro is this using legos to play out stories? I'm not sure what lego
wnats to focus on but from all the years of having legos I've always seen
them as lego is a object that I can use to build and image strcutures that I
will never have. (a catsel on the forsest, a train, a space ship, etc...)
In lugnet.general, Todd Thuma writes:
> Deidre posted to Duplo an interesting observation about Lego and Disney I am
> certain a lot of people missed and failed to pick up on.
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/duplo/?n=530
>
> This got me to thinking and I hadn't slacked off at work nearly enough so I
> thought I would post these ideas about where Lego and Disney could further
> their partnership.
>
> First, make some sculptures out of Disney Characters. I know this might be a
> tough battle with the Disny folks, but there are enourmous collectors of
That WORD 'collectors' SCARES ME. LEGO up until the Star Wars License has
been wise enough to stay true to the TOY INDUSTRY and be a TOY MAKIER! That
is every toy they make is garrantteed (for some amount of time) to be
avaliable for ALL! Everyone will get the same thing and their is NO fear of
missing out. When star wars came out I was afraid that LEGO would trun into
HASBRO/KENNER and release the toys but the secondary market (comic books
stoire) would buy them all up and resell them at a high price. Take the
star ware action figure line form kenner/hasbro. Sure hasbro has made some
great figuers like Grand Admiral Thrawn. But when they release them they
gave few to many areas. Those areas that did get them one or two poeple
would buy them all up and they you had to get them at double/triple cost at
the comic book store. This IS NOT FAIR! Luckly, with lego sw THIS HAS NOT
happened.
I was initally dissapointed with the SantaFe engine as it was limited to
10,000 units but after they release the 2nd batch which did not have the #
plate I'm okay with it. LEGO IS A TOY! LEGO IS A TOY! I want to be able
to have the same advantage as everyone else is getting LEGO TOYS. Going
into the 'collectors' market and the above statement changes....
Disney
> stuff that wouldn't hesitate to purchase a Lego Scuplture in the shape of a
> Mickey, Minnie, or Donald Duck. Lego says that want to bring people to Lego
> that haven't been there before and trust me this will do it. It will also be
> successful globally.
>
> Second, what about a town system around the Disney parks? There has got to be
> dozens and dozens of structures and themes that can be utilized to develop
> Disney themed Lego Town sets. Imagine a technic Epcot Sphere and basic brick
> sets for the different International areas of Epcot. The science and
> technology area would provide a great opportunity for a DACTA tie in that
> already exists at Epcot.
>
> As for the Disney World or Disney Land, you have the train that encircles both
> parks that could be modeled as a set. The western, future, past, etc. areas are
> perfect for expanding upon the themes that have already been done in some form.
> Even the monorail could be modeled to develop a new monorail set using a new
> track and motor (one that could be developed for years to come). I think you
> might even be able to use one of the Technic or Mindstorms motors with an
> adapted train track (move the two rails close together). The train wheels could
Diseny has a TOY MONORAIL so I'm not sure how well that idea is going to go....
> be used just narrowed or singled up on a center mount or possible faced two
> wheels onto one that would ride in the center of the narrowed train rails. In
> the end you would be using the same components as the train system. (You might
> even bring back the center rail from the old 12 volt series to work somehow on
> this new monorail) All of these, of course, are simple ideas offered freely in
> the hopes that something can be made of it.
>
> Third, Tinker Bell's Castle! Where are the marketing people? Has this idea been
> so obvious its been missed, or is Disney so protective of thier symbol that it
> can't be modeled. Believe me, a tastefully done set with a Disney group of
> charaters would sell like hot cakes.
>
> Fourth, Studios Sets and Disney/MGM Studio Park, I see the connection! You
> could have a Jim Henson Muppet set and a Star Wars Movie Making Set. I really
> don't see a problem here.
>
> Fifth, the expansion of Disney with parks in Japan and France, and possibly
> elsewhere, there seems to me to be a natural connection between Lego/Disney
> Park sets and International distribution. I realize Lego has few sets that are
> available in only one continent any more, so it seems like any set that can
> reproduce common elements of Disney Parks would make for great town sets.
>
> Anyway, that's my ideas. I'd better get back to work now.
>
> Todd
-AHui
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| (...) Not any more than having a town set or a vehicle set defeating the purpose of a child imagining his own version of those. Making sets more affordable is a good idea tho. The Disney sets were pretty expensive. (...) I dunno about that (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jun-02, to lugnet.general)
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