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OK Scott. Somehow I knew that your conservativism would lead you to agree with Rush. I
suppose if Robert Bork said LEGO was a Danish commie plot, you would agree??
Gary Istok
P.S. :-) - Scott was the first AFOL that I ever met, and I like to tease him about his
conservative leanings (not slouching). Especially when I consider myself a political
independent with a "plague on both your houses" attitude about the Republicans and Democrats
(except I kinda like Arizona Republican John McCain). Hey, maybe we should start a LEGO
Political Action Committee (LEGO PAC). So as to promote the political aspirations of
pro-LEGO politicians. :-)
Scott E. Sanburn wrote:
> < cross posted to off-topic-debate >
>
> Rich,
>
> Rich Manzo wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.general, Chris Busse writes:
> > > In Colorado they are testing using a LEGO building contest for college
> > > admission:
> > >
> > > http://www.denverpost.com/news/news0201c.htm
> > >
> > > Originally found on slashdot:
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/articles/00/02/01/1135226.shtml
> > >
> > > Chris Busse
> >
> > Today on the Rush Limbaugh Program Rush was talking about the above issue.
> > Of corse Rush was disgusted that they were using Lego as a college entry exam.
> > Details about the exam- Students are given a box of Lego. Then they are shown
> > a Lego robot for 1 minute and they have to build the robot to the best of
> > their ability. Of corse Rush was disgusted that they were using Lego as a
> > college entry exam, as am I. but "LEGO is a tool for 4 year olds" I was
> > offended! :)
>
> Hmm... Being a Rush fan and a definite AFOL, I can see the logic of his
> thinking. Testing people on the ability to build anything, regardless of
> how good they might be, is a strange way of testing anyone. If you
> noticed the CNN ( Communist News Network BTW IMO ) article:
>
> "The nine schools in the pilot program will admit a total of 100
> students. The students were chosen in December from a group of 700 New
> York public high school seniors. Most in the pool were African Americans
> and Hispanics who had modest grades and standardized test scores but
> personal qualities that counselors believed would let them succeed at
> selective colleges."
>
> Denver Post:
>
> " Instead of coloring in bubbles with a No. 2 pencil, selected high
> school seniors are snapping together colorful Legos in hopes of
> attending the prestigious private college in Colorado Springs.
>
> The revolutionary test is designed to pinpoint students likely to
> succeed at tough colleges despite below-average standardized
> test scores. The Lego test helps identify initiative, leadership and
> an ability to work in groups - qualities that hours-long ACT and
> SAT tests never quite get at.
>
> CC is participating in the national experiment with eight other
> schools to recruit diverse students who probably wouldn't
> otherwise qualify for admission. The stu dents will be admitted this
> fall.
>
> "This puts more emphasis on hard-tomeasure characteristics and
> less on the standardized tests that frankly have been a stumbling
> block for disadvantaged and minority students," said Terry
> Swenson, CC's admissions dean.
>
> With affirmative-action programs under legal fire, colleges and
> universities are searching for minority admissions procedures that
> can withstand allegations of unfair preferences."
>
> Now, based on these statements of both CNN and the Denver Post, instead
> of testing everyone equally, based on test scores and their high school
> preformance, they are trying to skirt around recent rulings which say
> affirmative action is unlawful, and are trying to find tests that get
> around this issue. This is why the LEGO test is used. Going to college
> has NOTHING to do with "initiative, leadership and an ability to work
> in groups ". Working in the real world deals with these issues, and
> college is about as removed from reality as anything.
> Testing for this ability to build LEGO's with other students as
> admission to college is plain wrong, and is rather distressing. College
> admission should be a combination of school work, and drive, and not
> with building a LEGO robot. This is a pitiful attempt on getting around
> rulings of law, instead of addressing the problems of minorities and
> their test scores.
>
> Rush points out the hypocracy of these admissions, and I am glad someone
> does. As for the four year old toys, I disagree, but that is another
> debate, one we have addressed many times here and other places.
>
> Scott S.
>
>
>
> Gee imagine if that becomes the new national standard! :) I'd get
> > a scholarship to every school out there!!!! :)
> >
> > -Rich
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________________________________________
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