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(...) I'm not saying I disagree with you Larry, but to play devil's advocate... While 2150 is basically the same model as 4554 in a different color, LEGO never marketed it as a re-release as 4554, did they? If not, it's not *quite* the same thing as (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Hi Paulo, Personally, I think that new light grey would look fine with this model. I understand the concern for classic space and classic castle legends that are are mainly light grey. I would like to point out that several legends have not (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Keep the original grey colors for - the minifig torso/arms/legs colors - all the train parts (tracks, doors, windows, etc - all the basic bricks and plates (as sold in the bulk packs) - the 48x48 building plate I have not posted anything yet (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) see [LEGOSet 4554] and then see [LEGOSet 2150] and tell me that a different color, in and of itself, makes a set somehow undesirable. I have both 4554 and 2150 and I like them both. (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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There is no such thing as a Legend, can't be a Legend if the colors are not the same as the original. Making minor changes, due to part availability, is one thing but changing the color of the parts is something completely different. I shudder to (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It was me who mentioned it. Well, i have this set and it has a lot of light grey in it, and some is very visible indeed (although major visible colors are red and blue as you said). But if it doesn't matter to you, that's ok. But the point of (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Awesome! One of my brothers got this set when we were growing up, and it has always been a favorite of mine. I look forward to purchasing one in the future. The price also seems very reasonable. Thanks LEGO! As someone mentioned for the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Cool :D Not that I am the sort to buy that sort of set... but I think it is cool anyway. Perhaps that makes my opinion worth less, or something. Michael ps. I hate new purple! ;) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote: -snippage- (...) Jake, I've resisted jumping in and flogging the dead horse, but I also want to add my voice to the chorus. Sorry - this isn't as organized as I would like, but I have tired-head. You don't need (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX) !
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(...) Hi Jake, By "legend" you mean it will appear on the same true colors as the first, right? If not, I don't see the point of "legends" anymore, nor i do find the word "legend" suitable. Best regards, Paulo Renato (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Taking a break from reading the 250+ color change posts, I just got the green light to announce a new Legend! And it's ....drum roll please.... 5541 - (URL) Model Team Hot Rod>! The Hot Rod first raced into the hands of LEGO collectors in 1995, and (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego.announce, lugnet.lego, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.year.2004, lugnet.general, FTX) !!
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(...) Well, if there was good thinking involved, nobody managed to notice it so far. Did anyone see those hoards of kids streaming in the toy shops, screaming "YES! I want those new colours!!!"? If the reasons were that good, why don't they present (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I think the color change was made because TLC tries to cut production costs. Probably they now use recycled plastic to produce the bricks. They just didn't manage to reach the same color again within a reasonable effort. Grey is the most (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) 2004 Lego Harry Potter, Now with new, improved colors! That sounds silly. This is more like when food companies put dye in their products to make them look better. They don't tell the customer outright, but if you look carefully at the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Like many others, I am curious about why the colors were changed. I am prepared to accept whatever answer is given, even if it is one that I don't think makes a good case for the change. Some of the reasons that have been given officially (correct (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) "almost certainly" - There is the wiggle-room again. To be trustworthy one has to be reliable. TLC is neither (anymore). It is sad to see a good company go. (...) Until? (...) good: Someone though about including green. bad: the new colours (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) How about posting things WITH CAPS is the quickest way to get ignored by a company that is already trying its hardest to adapt and survive right now, much less focus on rants (which your post mostly isn't..but glancing at the subjuct makes it (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hi all, especially Jake, Jake, first let me say thanks for all the hard work you've put into communicating between AFOLs and TLC. And I'm sorry some of the folks here have treated you so rudely. Now, I have a suggestion about this "universal color" (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I totally aggree with this. Take for example, the Shop @ Home only minifig scale Lunar Module. If it was available from somewhere in australia, I would have definatly bought it by now. But because it has to come all the way from denmark, takes (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Ben and also John Gerlach have summed up how I feel exactly. Goodbye Lego - it was a great 30 years, and I'll still enjoy my existing collection. But I sure won't be able to be a big supporter, fan, promoter or consumer any more. You let us (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It was in both 4475 and 10124. (URL) TWS Garrison (URL) capital letters in address for direct reply. (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Same coin, different side. He's not talking about places where S@H is available, but places where it isn't. S@H is available in a whopping 19 countries, which are currently restricted to portions of North America, Oceania, and Western Europe (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Edited with extreme limitations! Thank you senior fan, previous employee, inner circle contact and virtual Train-head, Jake. Okay, I can see a trend starting here with everybody's message replies, but I have to add 2 cents also. I LOVE the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yes, it might be ok, but you are missing several points here, without a LEGO brand name store, there is absolutely zero chance of casual/impulse shoppers buying an exclusive (never mind the fact that people like me never get the chance to (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) I have to disagree. Shop@Home is available in enough countries that I'm sure that the majority of shoppers DO have access to a method of buying them. Buying an exclusive set is always more fun to in a LEGO brand name store, but buying the same (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Jake, Thanks for the update. Curiously absent from the list are any/all of the transparent colors. Hopefully some of those (t-white/clear, t-yellow, t-green, t-red) will be included in the additions to the list. Ray Sanders lugnet # 124 (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hi Jake, I didn't bought any of the 2004 sets and i think i will not. I'm really frustrated with this color change. I was thinking what - apart for changing back the colors (the wiser move: if there's anything worst than making a mistake it is not (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I can't help but cynically joke (by rearranging words) that LEGO has embraced the "4+" community and shunned the minifig this year. Since you're in apology-mode anyway... (...) Keep the all of the wood-like pieces the old brown (Barrels, (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Jake, Would it be possible to poll the Lego community on what other colours should be included in the universal list. Perhaps if you get enough feedback regarding certain colours (like tan --- please keep tan) that might influence your (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Crap - that is the only piece that I really care about! ;) -mark (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I think I've found some better (although unfortunately still very grainy) pictures of these cool new sets on a Czech Lego site. Here is the URL (and I hope that I've copied it correctly): (URL) look pretty good! My seven-year old daughter took (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.belville, lugnet.general, lugnet.fabuland)
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(...) When I was young my Lego buddy was like this, colour didn't matter, it was the shape and technical abilities of the model he was interested in, for myself the colour was an important element in designing a model. I think Kids just vary. (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Jake, All the sets you have listed in this post (and another previous one) were great additions for the AFOL. Many thanks to whoever was responsible for bringing them to us! I don't think anyone would disagree that AFOL treatment was at an all (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I love tan, and the "sand" colors. Tan, at least, needs to be around forever. I'd like to see chrome gold universalized, too. Imagine a 6285 Black Seas Barracuda with all the yellow replaced with chrome gold. That is bliss. (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Dirk, Are you *sure* your an *adult* fan of LEGO? I don't doubt the "fan of LEGO" part, but I do seriously question the adult part. Are you saying you are more loyal than me? I'm sure not going anywhere. More colors mean more options. I invite (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Well if anyone's keeping track, I've purchased ONE set (MINI Star Destroyer) with the new colours so far. It was cheap and for a specific part (ironic thing is that the part was in new light grey). Opening this set was so difficult - not (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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I should note (even though I have already done so numerous times), that while I do NOT support the company, I DO support Jake. Only if Jake had KKK's job would I blame him for the current issues. But since his job now includes liason, he's going to (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:409AA24C.CFA08D...faq.com... (...) can I do (...) people (...) The problem (...) "Cementing (...) Hmm, by this logic then, I could claim TLC hasn't been listening since 1991 when they (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I hate to say it, but ditto. While I support Lego-the-product, LEGO-the-company does NOT have my support. I have bought 23 2004 sets to date, and 20 of those had all bley instantly added to my BL shop. I only bought 22 of the 21 to get 11 of the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Schnipp (...) Hey, speak for yourself ! I can say what I think and do it in a civilized manner (at least I hope my english is good enough ;) I am also not annoyed. I do like the new colors for my space-junk-mocs but I'll also miss the old (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) You think so? In my own comparisons, I've found that there are only five opaque colors that really go well with dark-bley (not counting light-bley and light-light-bley, of course), which are black, dark-blue, sand-blue, sand-green, and (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) *sigh* I'm doing my best to be optimistic about this, just like when I'm hoping that this whole "universal color" thing isn't just something they came up with to milk free AFOL PR out of the fact that they might never have intended to make any (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) A friend of mine is in a teaching program in Japan, and he's been commenting on some of the more odd instances of culture shock. One of the most interesting ones was finding out that some of the local residents will just cut in line whenever (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) OK... that what is the real reason for the change? Please don't tell me TLC is applying patent for the new colour... :p And why can't TLC switch back for the mean line, but can still produce old colour if needed? If the new colour is really (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello Jake, First to respond to your request: At a minimum, I would request all bricks, plates and slopes in all three classic colours. I would further stand behind the requests others have made for specialty pieces. I would add the new pieces which (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I know some people are still thinking this is bad news, but I disagree. Thanks for providing this list to us, Jake. Of all the news you have given, I think this may be the most healing. Now we can look forward to some degree of stability (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) OMG, ROTFL! That absolutely is the most funny reply I've seen in this thread :D (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) You assume that the monorail will be coming back. Do you know something I don't know, or is this an example of whishful thinking? :-) I'd love for the Monorail to come back. I've got the expansion track set (bought long ago at a Toys R Us on (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Boy... you folks just don't get it do you. Changing colours is a business decision!!! The fact that TLG decided to keep the new colours simply can not possibly indicate that they did not listen to AFOLs... only that they believe the new (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Now that you mention it, that's just how I feel as well. The product is still fantastic despite the poorly selected new shades of classic colors, but the company can no longer be trusted to maintain any of the values that make the lego system (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote: snip out humorous sarcasm list (...) Unfortunately, the stores Jason mentions (Target and TRU) do not have branches here in New Zealand, and apart from 2 Pirate ships re-issued several years ago, I have seen (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) You can ask this, after they switched dark grey, just to make it look WORSE with virtually every other color made? -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jason Spears wrote: Snip (...) snip Hi Jason My "Area" happens to be New Zealand - no Targets, no TRU, not much of anything (unless you count the sheep), so I think I am right in saying that all of these specials are (for the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Agreed. This list blows chunks due to the last 3 listings. Replace "new" with "old", and it's Golden. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) This question simply proves that you aren't. This thread has had several people mention that the problem isn't that you're refusing to admit the mistake. The problem is that you refuse to back out of it and switch back to the old colors. (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) What kind of club leaves out members with long standing and a proven track record in favour of some 'wannabe upstarts' with no standing in the community? It amounts to identity theft. The new colours do not belong in the club. Peace and (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Oooo.....I admire your great work. May the LEGOLAND® be with you, Master-Lenny. ===...=== EARL-0 Kotaro Ono (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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I have to say I am not happy with the final outcome. But, if Lego is serious about makeing a select few parts avaible in the old color schem I could live with the followling: 1) train track 2) 1 x 2 brick 3) 1 x 4 brick 4) 2 x 2 brick 5) 2 x 4 brick (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I think 9V track should NEVER be made in New Dark Grey. If 9V track in the old colors is discontinued, switch to Brown instead. --Bill. (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It's unfortunate that you are unable to adapt your hobby to these changes. I've been eyeing some of my mocs that I actually want to change over to the new colors to improve them. The added bonus is this will free up some of the older colors (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I think Jake is honest with us and passes along any information that is important to the community, whether good or bad. I'm sure he believes it. (...) Well, let's put this into perspective. LEGO is a hobby to most of us. We usually can't make (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Jake has said many times that he doesn't lie to the AFOL community. (...) Have you had business dealings with "far east" cultures like the Japanese? If you ask them to do something, and they aren't going to do it, they don't tell you "No" at (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hi, get me right: Jake tries his best - I know, but I cannot imagine he is really believing what he is writing. Then he could not be an AFOL. For him it must be frustrating. So this was my intention to give him the hint to look for a new job. No one (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Oh wait, I think I get it now. Maybe the first question was too specific. Let's make it a game of it and see if we can gather a few more "official denials". How about 20 questions? Was there a cost savings component in the decision to change (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I don't believe your ranting is serving any useful purpose. I personally think that Jake is doing everything he can to help. That's a [hard] thing to do. When you're in customer support, it's a very difficult thing to keep certain customers happy (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Dirk Meier" <dirk.meier@surfeu.de> wrote in message news:HxB097.1A8r@lugnet.com... (...) Okay - timeout. Really. There is absolutely no need for that. Whatever the AFOLs concerns are with new colors, there is absolutely no need for that. Just (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Monorail track. --Todd (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I keep on agreeing with Jojo! I've gone from being a supporter of the company to merely a supporter of their product now (as a result of the colour change). -Bryan (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) What broad sided the AFOL community was the fact that I'm sure everyone here assumed that all of these colors were fixed (including the old grays and brown). Grays and browns have been around seemingly forever. It's crushing to know that those (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Absolutely. Different plastics have different natural colors. Some start out clear, others start out white, and those are basically the only colors that can achieve a true white (since hobby shops generally only sell white styrene, I'd guess (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I really hope someone hacked into your system and wrote this message. I would be really embarassed to be associated with a hobby in which fans speak with such lack of class and civility. If this is the way AFOLs behave (and I stress the A for (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Density (PS is lighter IIRC, check with Google or something), strength (ABS is more resistant to bending and such) or surface (PS is a bit porous, try a microscope or high-power magnifying glass) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Check-By-Phone. I don't use credit cards, and I don't want to wait for my payment to arrive by snail-mail before my shipment can be sent to me. In addition to the fact that S@H usually costs more because of S&H charges, it'd take over a week (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) That's what we've been told. Licensed characters (SW, HP, Spiderman, Dora, etc.) and real-world personalities (Ferrari drivers). Of course, with how badly the NBA minifig 3-pack sold, you have to wonder why the retail chains would still be (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I don't care for the color change - they should have thought about backwards compatiblity and inviolate colors before they made the change. If they had, I really doubt they would have be having this discussion. That they won't change back is (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello! (...) You are right, this term is highly questionable. I like building with LEGO bricks and collecting LEGO sets. But I am not a "fan of LEGO" because - following TLC's corporate identity statement on www.lego.com - "it is not possible to (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Ah, I see now. You were trying to say that the only market that cares strictly about the commitment to listen to AFOL feedback is the AFOL market itself, which I can agree with. Noone else has any reason to care why you did something so much (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) When BIONICLE accounts for 25% of all LEGO product turnover, investing a little space in special items for that powerful market hardly counts as "squandering" space. It might surprise you to know that the biggest complaint about them is not (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Dirk, I think this post was rude and uncalled for. How would you like to be called useless? I sure wouldn't. You basically just called Jake a moron. Whether or not you agree with the TLC's decision does not give you the right to have a nasty (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote: First, Jake, let me say that I really appreciate you keeping this communication with the AFOLs going. I feel utterly betrayed by TLC as a loyal customer and from their behavior thus far regarding some of the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake, please, please shut up! Do you believe what you are writing? We don`t need your way of community development. I give you a good hint: Look for another job! We don`t trust in any word from you nor TLC. Tomorrow white will die, then red, (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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[snipped lots of not positive blabla] (...) I do not feel understod at all. If this is your final update, you have finally lost a consumer, a big fan, a big supporter and promoter. My buys for this years sets is less than 1% of what I bought in the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I wondered about some numbers, so I consulted Peeron: Those named above are 9 most used colours (minus the 'new' word, of course). These account for 91% percents of parts used in all sets. Original Gray is #2 (15.4%), DkGray #7 (3.9%), Brown (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yep. If I thought ranting and carrying on would increase our influence in the company rather than diminish it, or would be likely to reverse the change, I'd be out there ranting too. (...) Agreed. Jake started out as in charge of some aspects (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) ... Hi, and at the purple colour you have to think about a little more, how the exact colour has to look like, hmm? What other colours will you try in a wild mix in one set like the HP-bus? Maybe some sorts of tan in the next starwars-set? Or (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) red green blue yellow white black new light gray new dark gray new brown Funny thing: Remove the 3 new colors, add back the 3 old colors plus tan (I'm indifferent to tan, but I know a lot of people love it) and I would bet 9 out of 10 of us (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Well, there are several levels of truth to be considered in this context. 1. The information is "true" insofar as it accurately reflects the motivations and goals of TLG 2. The information is "true" insofar as it is "truly" the information (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) In all seriousness, do you suppose that this is how MEGABLOKS does it? I've noticed for years that their "white" is more "white" than LEGO "white," but I never knew the underlying reason. Is there a simple, reliable way to discern the (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I'm not being that magnanamous. I don't like the color change and if ranting or anything else might get it reversed I will rant. My point was rather that I can't understand why people are questioning that TLC's reasons as given by (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) That's part of the problem. You do get much greater accuracy as you increase the size of the batch. It's also probably a lot easier to do with sheet extrusion than with injection molding, where you have a constant flow of a large amount of (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I doubt it very much. Natural ABS is a slightly translucent cream color, and white is probably the hardest color to achieve. Heavy metal pigments are no longer legal in the US (which is why brown/tan plastic electrical fixtures are no longer (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I didn't say children don't care about color or are incapable of noticing a color change. My response is to those who question: if the color change is really an improvement then why Lego doesn't hype the color change to their target market in (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Many people have asked what colors are currently considered "universal" or locked. This means that these colors will almost certainly never be changed. Universal colors are colors that we consider to be untouchable for change. While the final list (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.announce) !!
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(...) I was allowed to take photos in the upper level of the Idea House, with the mock toy store, original molds, and 1950s toy store museum (which you have photos posted of). Also, I took them in the basement outside of the vault, with (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree whole-heartedly. I have my issues with the company's direction and some of the decisions they make. But the fact is, I'm not sitting in their meetings and I don't have the information they have. We can all keep ranting about how we (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I think you may be missing some subtilty in the argument here. My son may be a good example of this. He is definitely drawn to certain colours and exciting images when shopping. However... when building his own creations he does not seem to (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) My sentiments exactly. About 5 years ago I packed up my h0 layout, due to time shortage and high cost. Right now LEGO is almost as expensive and I'll have loads more time now that I won't be doing much MOC's anymore either. (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Tim Courtney" <lego@SPAMCAKE.timcourtney.net> wrote in message news:Hx9puy.F2G@lugnet.com... (...) area (...) there in (...) hour-long (...) hours (...) Photos in the idea house were not allowed, but I specifically arranged to go to the vault for (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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"Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message news:Hx9JCq.1IL7@lugnet.com... (...) figuring (...) a (...) I didn't see it, but then I wasn't specifically looking for it. It appeared in the 1996 dealer catalogue, but was presumably (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) So what you're saying is only on sets like Spiderman, Harry Potter, Star Wars and the new Ferarri ones will this be in affect? Wasn't aware of the above, thanks. (...) And sometimes they even use the same sculpt on multiple figures (Lalime of (...) (22 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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