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(...) My biggest personal gripe: it's just another step farther away from the nostalgic feeling I get when interacting with the product. The biggest reason why I still have LEGO in my life (and lots of it), is that it brings me back to childhood. (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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The virus you describe is known to antivirus software and tools as w32.sober.c. See (URL) for information and instructions on how to remove it. >> Mark (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Jake, I really don't much care one way or the other exactly what the colours are - whatever shade of grey we have will be right for something and not quite right for something else. HOWEVER I'm very upset that standard colours should change on (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Today I recieved a spam with most likely a virus payload. The subject is: "Your IP was logged" and it claims to be sent from info@tiscali.de It has an interesting attachment named refcode18109.txt.cmd As I examined it in Notepad, I noticed that it (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Jake, Thank you for taking the time to solicit opinions from the fan base. Much has already been said in this message thread and others about the color change. For me personally, the color change means two things: 1. One of my favorite colors (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hi Ahui, I just uploaded a 2.15 MB ZIP containing 16 JPGs with no problem. I've found it depends very much on transfer speed how much you can upload. Doesn't seem to have any fixed timeout duration, but I can upload way bigger files using DSL (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Want to know "Where in the World" your fellow "LEGO Maniac" colleagues are coming from for BrickFest PDX 2004? Take a look at the spectacular representation of attendees from all over the world! Australia: Victoria: Chadstone, Melbourne Canada: (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.announce, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.general, lugnet.org, lugnet.org.ca, lugnet.org.us, FTX) !!
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Is any one else having issues trying to upload 1.5 MB or bigger files to brickshelf? I've been trying to upload a flash file (I have other flash files on the site) and I keep getting an error. IE will begin to upload the file (the progress bar gets (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Anything can be recycled into black, because carbon is the cheapest source of black colorant (with the added benefit of being naturally UV resistant), and it will overpower any previous colors. This did get me thinking, though, that the greys (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Is that anything like the ancient Chinese blessing/curse "May you live in interesting times"? The only product change in history that I can think of that begins to equate to this is New Coke, which has since been revealed as an attempt to draw (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I have seen pictures of the new grays (which I hate) and I heard that they're also changing brown and the minifigs face tone too. Does anyone have any pictures of these other changes that they can link me too please? -Jeff (I hate the gray change!) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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Despite the fact that I have a large collection of the old colors, I like the new colors as well. Thanks :-) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Pedro Silva wrote: <snip> (...) Yep, I meant VAT. I think Hong Kong has "GST" which is the same thing, and they advertise that you can get some of that money back somehow if you are a tourist. (...) Can't argue with that. But we (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) to figure it out for the last hour and a half, and I'm still stuck. But I'll keep working on it! JohnG, GMLTC (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
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I like the new colours and support their introduction. I have somewhere over 100,000 pieces including a lot of light and dark grey, both of which have always been too yellowish or brownish for my tastes. The new light grey is nicer and I will (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hi, Personally, I have no problem with the new colours. I can remember getting gray 1x1x1 clips in the mid-80s that didn't match the gray of other bricks, I thought it strange, but it didn't really bother me. My only concern with a colour change is (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Sorry to answer my own post, but I forgot about the new brown. I actually have not seen this in person yet, but from what I've seen in photos that is even worse than the new dark gray. Bruce (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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From my standpoint as a castle-head, color variations is not a horrible thing per se--real stone walls aren't all one shade, so mixing shade differences is fine. However, the new dark gray looks too blue to me and is therefore not very useful. I (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I'm curious if anybody else has taken the time to crack the DVD code on the "Biff Starling" Mars lander: https://planetary.or...pirit.html I know Jeremy Rear was working on it but haven't heard if he's had a chance to finish. And the announcement (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
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(...) The extra 4-connection module makes sense. A veritable hub of 3vil. Me likes. Consider my module a single-connector. --Ryan W. (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.general, lugnet.org.scibrick, lugnet.space, FTX)
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(...) I'm still very unhappy with the change. My spending had been way up to gather the old colors. Once they are gone most of my money will go to Lego's newest competitor - the after market. This was a bad decision at a worse time. As they bemoan (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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First of all Jake let me say thanks for providing us the stage to say what we think despite the fact you know it probably won't be good things:-( I am a LEGO fan for the last 23 years I think or so since I got my very first LEGO set and mainly a (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Jake McKee wrote in message ... (...) (as (...) Much of what I would say has already been said multiple times, so I won't bore you with repetition. I think it's a really, really bad idea. One of my major concerns though, is that I have no way now (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Much has been posted of the color change and of LEGO not passing along word of it to consumers. Which brings me to something that happened over the holidays. At a X-Mas family get-together, a cousin of mine asked what was in store for 2004 (her son (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I can not help thinking that the company asking (or rather the fact that they need to be told by you Jake) AFOLs opinions' after the fact, is simply adding insult to injury. (...) To the LEGO company, I would like to make it perfectly clear (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Thank you Jake. I am glad that the color issue is being addressed. In my opinion, the changing of colors is only one symptom of a larger problem at LEGO. LEGO cannot be everything to everyone. LEGO should be LEGO. It is much more important to be (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I had a $25 Toys R Us gift card burning a hole in my pocket. I wanted to wait and see if they would stock the 4400 tub. But it is apparently discontinued. 4107 has far too may 1x1's. So I bought two red buckets - 4105. This has lots of tan and brown (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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Jake, here are my thoughts about the color change: I have already purchased new sets utilizing the new colors and I would have to say that the new light gray looks really good compared to the old light gray. It looks a lot brighter compared to the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Bottom line - I think the color change is a huge mistake. Jake, I appreciate you taking the initiative to do some fact finding on this. And I cannot pass up this opportunity to offer my views. I have been a Lego fan since 1974 when my mother put a (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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I've now got my first firsthand experience with the new colors, so here goes: LT gray is so close, I wonder why you bothered at all. Old Dk grey is better for rocks and earthly matters New dk grey is kind of more interesting to look at. As far as (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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"Jason J Railton" <j.j.railton@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:HrL12I.17L0@lugnet.com... (...) experimenting (...) happens (...) negative (...) Will (...) disaster, and (...) idea the (...) What I have read says skin tones have been added only (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Hi Jake. Thanks for asking. This is my first post in regards to this topic, although I feel very strongly about it. My biggest concern is that this is an omen of things to come. After producing these colors for over twenty years, they are changed so (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Hi Jake, I'm not exactly a huge poster here on lugnet, but I am a collector of huge amounts of lego. I only got back into lego a couple of years ago so I no doubt don't have the collections other folks here do. I strongly oppose the colour change. (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Much like the numerous previous opinions, I agree that the color diversification is a good thing, but not at the expense of established colors. However, the central issue for me is not that my greys and browns will become antiquated and mismatched. (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I have seen pictures of the new grays (which I hate) and I heard that they're also changing brown and the minifigs face tone too. Does anyone have any pictures of these other changes that they can link me too please? -Jeff (I hate the gray change!) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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Jake - I don't like the change to the colours. I think it's a big mistake. I'm aged 30, and I've been buying Lego for myself for 25 years. Bricks and plates have been available in light grey for that long, as have mini-figures. I regard both as (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: I don't have anything against the new greys (and other colors), but, it would be nice to have the "old" grey still available in bulk orders from Shop@Home indefinately. The castle builders in particular are most (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I think it's bad idea whose karmic boomerang will come back at TLG in more ways than I think any of us can now predict. 1. Compatibility no longer exists. I hope the Consumers Affairs division is ready to handle the increase in complaints. 2. Any (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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The new colors, in and of themselves, are fine. Others have done a great job expressing concern about the real issue - deprecating the old colors - and almost all of those reasons are near and dear to me as well, including the longer-term inability (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Yep, I think the Danish system is modelled after the Swedish one, long before anyone was a member of the EU. We also call it MOMS (and before that was OMS). (...) It's the same in Sweden (except for food and building materials, which are (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Of course you can post without being a member! You just have to be *registered*, not necessarily a full, paying, member. -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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At Groningen, The Netherlands, in the 1880's a spacious building was erected to house the local exchange market for grains. The building was soon to be known as 'De Korenbeurs' (The Grain Exchange). As grain commerce gradually disappeared from the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.announce, lugnet.town, lugnet.build.contests, FTX) !!
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(...) Muahahaha. I think my 3vil Skullmodule will have one connection, and then I will make a 4-way connector behind it, perhaps with some greebles or a tower or some such. That would leave 3 connection points for others to join me in my 3vil ways. (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.general, lugnet.org.scibrick, lugnet.space, FTX)
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I'd say pound them down with a rubber hammer, as TLG builders do, but looking at the pic, they really are stacked about as tight as they'll go, definitely not enough gappage there to even out the stacks. Just one more step on the way to MegaBloks (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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One question while I'm at a pause in my building- what type of module do you guys find you usually need more of: 1, 2, 3 or 4 corridored-modules? I'd like to help out by building my model however best it can be used, though I do have a stipulation (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.general, lugnet.org.scibrick, lugnet.space, FTX)
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Ditto. Anything that really needs to be said would not be said nicely, so I'll leave it at: The new dark grey is WAY too blue, and I will be buying VERY little retail Lego this year in response. I'll be getting most of my Lego secondhand, cutting (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmm. Well, let's pretend for a minute that I haven't had much time to read Lugnet posts for about six months, and let's pretend, just pretend, that I might have missed all the hub-bub that might have led to your recent posts, and let's say (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Don't miss this brickshelf picture in all the replys to Jake... -Matt :) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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There have been a lot of posts to this thread already. I won't repeat the many different reasons given why this color change has personal negative impact to folks, except to say that I agree with them all as valid. I will be personally negatively (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !
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(...) Sometimes just one simple sentence like this very one is more clarifying than thousands of words. Thanks for sharing! Best, Paulo Renato (Sorry Jake but, i couldn't help reply to this one:-) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Personally, if TLG cares about the millions of life long builders and collecters, they should take this seriously. (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Jake, Thank you for the opportunity to provide input. I have already sent in letters though the consumer affairs website. After reading most of the posts in the thread, I don't know if I will be able to add any unique or new viewpoints to what has (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Thanks for taking the time to ask for our views. I have not personally seen the new colors yet, but I can understand where folks are coming from. They see a discontinuance of an existing (and well used) set of colors. Likewise folks see a long road (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hey Jeremiah, and all the other LMB Finaliasts, Look forward to meeting all the other finalists and such in a week! For me I actually was disappointed that this final (SD) didn't happen at LegoLand itself, but oh well, still no biggie. I have family (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, FTX)
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(...) Nicely? hmmm.....after having read the previous 70-odd replies, I don't know if 'nicely' really means anything. If there is no chance of reversing the color change, then what is the real point of the thread? If there is even a slight chance (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the opportunity Jake. My main concern is the discontinuation of the classic colours. As many have already said, not being able to get any more bricks in those colours is gonna seriously affect a lot of AFOLs. I seem to remember (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Well, I suppose we can attempt to be civil about this... :o) After hearing about it initially I was not too concerned, "How far off the beaten path of the color palate would LEGO stray?" I thought. Very far was my answer. I purchased the Mos Eisley (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Designer/Creator series are part of the larger "Make and Create" group--which as we know, sales doubled on (according to the press release). Plus, check your Lego club magazine (see the comic featuring Coastwatch and the Hovercraft) something (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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"Jeramy Spurgeon" <beatnik303@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:HrJF80.7xE@lugnet.com... (...) red), but (...) because it (...) be (...) change (...) and (...) fight (...) all (...) about (...) old.I (...) that (...) IMHO the discontinuation of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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The main reasons i do not like this color change: 1. They don't match the old ones. 2. When mixed, the old ones look like degradaded with time. The old light grey seem too much yellowed and i hate yellowed parts. (see this post: (URL) Storing will (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Thanks for asking. The new colors would be great if thats what we had all along in place of the old colors, but we don't so I would have to say that I would rather buy a bucket of old colors rather than the new ones. On the other hand, if I didn't (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I actually LIKE the new colors. But I DONT WANT them because theyre changing a constant (or so we thought!) in the LEGO universe: light gray (and dark gray). The new colors are not backward-compatible and dont match older LEGO-products. There you (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Let me put it this way : after seeing the new and old grays together in a project, it is my opinion that the persons who approved the color change should be fired by TLG. I would say I hate the change, but you asked to be calm and non-hateful. (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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So far I have bought sets with new dark and light gray and new brown, so I've seen the 3 major color changes. I don't like the new light gray or new brown. The new dark gray is OK, but only for certain pieces. As for the whole color replacement in (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) When I first read about the color change, I thought..well...it can't be that bad...however..now that I own a few of the sets wnd some of the colors...I can see why some people are so upset. The first thing I thought when I saw them in person (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hello Jake, First, I'd like to thank you for allowing the AFOL community a chance to provide constructive feedback. I don't know of many other companies that would take such interest in a relatively small market segment's opinion. From a personal (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Thank you TLG for such a change in color and how you did it. I am sure that when my kids (who are NOT born yet) go to MBA school this will be a classic case study on how a company goes DOWN the toliet! In my studys for my MBA I learned how IBM (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Lego has represented the new grays as an "improvement". I don't agree - they are merely different. For some applications of gray, they will work better, for others, they will be worse. Natural stone is a warm tone, and the yellowish gray old bricks (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Jake, Thank you for taking the time to get feedback from the AFOL community. I hope most of it is rational and polite. Light gray and dark gray are (were) my favorite colors and I was very upset to hear about the color changes. As a new color, in (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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OK, I guess this is my chance to sum up my thoughts on new colors (having not yet read any of the previous 60 posts on this thread): I strongly oppose the change in colors and that issue alone has caused me to stop buying new Lego sets for the first (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I really, really like the new grey colors. I think in and of themselves, they're great--the gunmetal dark grey could be extremely useful for lots of space things, and the light grey is nicely neutral. However, I really DISLIKE them as (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I'll agree on that. It will be a choise between buying or NOT buying any new Lego set :-( Of cause I had to buy one just to see the colors for myself. This is my conclusion on the colors: 1. I like the new grey. It is actually more clear in (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Do I like the change in colors? No. I'd like to keep the current color pallet. In fact, I think there are too many color variations as is. Why do I not like the change? As an engineer, I am always concerned with backwards compatibility. Sure (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hello Jake, Thanks for the opportunity to get feedback from the fan base, and see what the responses are. I've read about 2 to 3 dozen responses on the color change. While I didn't think I'd reply, after reading the posts I felt to chime in. As a (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Oh man, must resist the urge to go off again. :) Seriously though....... The new grey colors are too blue and look very faded. The light much less than the dark grey, but faded and blue none the less. As for the brown, the old brown was perfect. The (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Hi Jake, nice to ask us about our feelings, but even if you tell us, TLC will not change back to the old colours, I still wish you would do. Even if that would not heal all the wounds that broke up now. What I personally think about the colour (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) My take on the issue: For the new grey, the change is rather subtle and unless put right next to eachother I don't see much problems with using the color in new models I will make together with the old grey. For the new dark grey however (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Funny it doesn't mention the Designer/Creator series... lines which have no licensing issues and are truly all about the brick. (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) VERY GOOD MOVE, Jake! IMHO, life is full of changes and that's why it makes it interesting and chalenging. We can all adapt in every situations. I understand the concern of certain AFOLs, and here are my thoughts: -First, WHY this decision? I (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I don't have any of the new color pieces yet, but I've seen the new greys. I haven't seen the other new colors (e.g. brown) however. I think the real problem is that the old greys are too yellowish, not that there's anything wrong with the new (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I am very tempted to say a lot about this issue but as most is already said, Ill keep it short: As an engineer of profession I will just repeat the old saying that can never be repeated too often: Dont repair something that is not broken! This in (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Jake & All, Thanks for the opportunity to give you some feedback. I know this is a delicate issue, as I have heard from various AFOL's from "Don't buy LEGO products" to letter campaigns to others, and I have read the responses so far in this thread, (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Adding new colors is a good thing, in my option, but that's not what's happened here. AFOL's argue about new colors, but the worst case scenario is that hated new colors can be ignored (placed in a storage bin and never used), or they can be sold to (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I wasn't going to get involved with this, as I didn't want to get caught up in the debates. Thanks for the chance to state an opinion without all the noise. As a parent, I have to say that the replacing of the colors doesn't make any sense to me. My (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Yup, I am really excited about some of the new sets. Namely, that new Harry Potter shack, looks very good as a source of house parts. (...) Well, here's my tiny little input on the matter of new colours: I don't hate them. In fact, I think (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I cut the DPI in half, so you should be able to load it better. The main reason I left the image so large was for the detail. (URL) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.promo, lugnet.general, lugnet.org.us.baylug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
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I've just got a small amount of the new grey's in the Imperial Shuttle. Whilst the both colors are fine as part colors, and could be usefull in some models, i feel that i much prefer the origional grey bricks as general parts. The old grey is much (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Todd Thuma wrote in message ... (...) can (...) Sure you can post if you're not a member (this is a very common misconception though). You just have to sign up, it doesn't cost anything. This page has details of the benefits of membership and how to (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.general)
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<snip> Jake, Thanks for actively bringing up this topic. When I heard that colors were being replaced, it was like a punch in the stomach for me. I have been a LEGO fan, collector, builder, and proponent for much of my life. (I am 26, and have been (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I'll begin by saying "Thanks for letting me." In nice wording, the color change is a rather unwise move and I hope will be corrected. Change is something we've (both LUGNET and general public) been reading about of lately. Many of us here have (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hi Jake, Thanks for getting our feedback. New colors are great, but I think a core color change is a mistake. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the ingenious idea of the LEGO company to get people to buy bricks, and then buy more bricks to add to (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hi Jake- I usually do not have a vocal presence on LUGNET, but I feel that this is an excellent opportunity to express an opinion of this change. I personally don't mind the new colors as an ADDITION to the existing and ever-growing color palette. A (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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I see the new colours that are only slightly different from the old one introduce major headache to all AFOL, and kids. This include the new greys, light yellow and three new oranges. Say this kid build a plane, and notice the right wing colour is (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Well, I have been thinking about my opinion on the color change for awhile. I recently bought some of the 2004 sets, so I could see what the fuss was about. My concerns are the following: My collection is large, so it naturally has a lot of grey. (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hello! The new grey coloures may be cool. But I like warm colours better. The world is cold enough, so why does LEGO even enhance the chill by producing such unnatural and unfriendly colours? (Sorry for answering my own post!) Bye Jojo (URL) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I know Lego's mission is to sell new sets, so I won't go into compatability with old colors. The new dark grey looks too cold and boring to me. The original had a nice warmth to it that made it mix nicely with the other colors. I haven't seen (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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What do I think about the new colors? Hmm... I think the first thing I thought of is one of the reasons I actually end up rejecting Mega Bloks. It seems that every time they introduce a new theme, the parts in that theme are entirely incompatible (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Hello! The new grey coloures may be cool. But I like warm colours better. Bye Jojo (URL) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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After hearing about the color change, I decided not to pass judgement until I actually saw the new colors. Well, I have bought several of the new WorldCity sets (great models!), so I do know the two new greys. And... I realy like them! They have a (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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