 | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Kyle D. Jackson
| | | | (...) There is a factual error here. Dark grey and brown have not been around for 20 years. You probably want to annex the letter with a detailed description of which colours have changed, with a photo, or even real parts, as an example if you want. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —David Eaton
| | | | | | (...) Well, they've been around for MORE than 20 years (1977 for dark grey and 1974/77 for brown, if you count the maxifig hair which probably wasn't ABS). So, yeah, maybe saying "more than 20 years" or "more than 25 years" (nice round number). (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Kyle D. Jackson
| | | | | | | (...) Really? What sets had the dark grey? And yeah, I forgot about the maxifig hair for brown (or minifig tools, etc.). I was thinking of largely common elements when I considered when a colour first "appeared". From my recollection neither dark (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —David Eaton
| | | | | | | (...) First set to use dark grey (according to Peeron) is 590 Engine Co. #9 (1977): (URL) the Brickshelf scan, it does indeed look like they're dark grey. For brown, I see push-brooms in 1978: (URL) started showing up in "regular" pieces much later. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Kyle D. Jackson
| | | | | | | | (...) as making very late appearances... (...) Yeah, the earliest grey bricks I got were in classic space set 894 Tracking Station in 1979 (a 2x4 and a bunch of 1x1,2,3). (...) Yup! Must've been bored! ;] Thanx, KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Ontario, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —David Eaton
| | | | | | | | | (...) Oops, wrong link... (URL) Yeah, grey *brick* was really uncommon until around 1984 when the castle (...) Cross between bored and curious I guess :) Once I realized how to do it rather quickly, it was pretty easy... Though admittedly writing a (...) (20 years ago, 2-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Gerhard R. Istok
| | | | | | | (...) Hey Dave, Peeron is wrong on some of the 60's dates for grey. In 1963 (Christmas 1962 to be accurate) grey plates in 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, 2x4 and strange as it may seem 8x11 came into production. These early ones were Cellulose Acetate. They (...) (20 years ago, 3-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Arne Lykke Nielsen
| | | | | | | | (...) Normal grey bricks like 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 were available in abundance in 1960/61 in expansion sets like 218, 219 and 220. Also, as far as I know, grey plates were used in 1957 in set 323, Train. Arne, Copenhagen (20 years ago, 3-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Gerhard R. Istok
| | | | | | | | | (...) Hello Arne, I have to politely disagree with you. If what I am thinking is correct, you are seeing what appears to be grey parts in the #218 (2x4 bricks), #219 (2x3 bricks), #220 (2x2 bricks), #221 (1x2 bricks), #222 (1x1 bricks) #223 (1x1 (...) (20 years ago, 4-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —David Eaton
| | | | | | | (...) Ooo, do you have inventories for these sets? (hint, hint!) Stuff that's pre-70's in Peeron isn't terribly complete... (even pre-80's is sketchy for some stuff) Actually, I guess Peeron even accepts "partial" inventories if you know a few (...) (20 years ago, 3-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Mark Chan
| | | | | | (...) Great points. Facts=Good. Pictures=best way to represent color facts. Actual parts are even better than pictures. We'll have to think of some way to incorporate your idea above. (Kind of like "Exhibit #1" at a court trial - I like it) I think (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Kyle D. Jackson
| | | | | | | (...) That's bringin' out the really big guns! ;] (...) When I said material, I was thinking more generically, to include not only the actual plastic material, but manufacturing process tweaks as well. I'm pretty sure the main material changed at (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Mark Jordan
| | | | | | | (...) Leave the parent and kid letters up to the parents and kids. (20 years ago, 2-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Kyle D. Jackson
| | | | | | | (...) Parents (and, in theory, kids) are also on LUGNET. Nothing at all prevents an AFOL from writing a letter that emphasizes the parental perspective more than the AFOL perspective (if at all). An AFOL-parent has the advantage that they can be (...) (20 years ago, 2-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —James Wilson
| | | | | (...) This is a GREAT suggestion. I would part with a few new gray plates and a couple of 1x2 "old gray" plates, to make the point. I would add, why not put in some pics of various MOCS that have been displayed at shows, and on the WEB, that make (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Color change: **CEO Draft Letter** —Bryan Wong
| | | | | (...) Haha that reminds me - the only 2004+ set I have is 4492 MINI Star Destroyer. It's sitting here in the original plastic container, minus all the non-bley pieces. I'd be happy to send this back to TLC with a letter to help prove our point! (...) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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