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Re: CASTLE WARS
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Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:19:24 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, John Robert Blaze Kanehl writes:
In lugnet.castle, Richard Noeckel writes:
Sergio Guerra wrote in Aquazone:


Of all the various lands and kingdoms in the Castle universe, which group
would survive a great war!

I’m NOT just talking good ( Royal Knights, Royal Knights, Crusaders… etc.) • VS.
evil (Fright Knights, Wolfpack, Darkforest… etc.)

But, if each force ( all 12 ) entered into a gigantic battlefield, who would
emerge as the survivor!

These are the contenders:

Black Falcons
LEGOLAND Castle
Black Knights
Crusaders
Dark Forest
Dragon Masters
Forestmen
Fright Knights
Knights’ Kingdom
Royal Knights
Wolfpack
And yes, I'll include Ninja


Hey! everybody knows I am Biased towards Ninja theme...

Theoretically, there is no right answer, so I will just add to the debate...

1. Samurai and Ninjas

Reasoning and rationale: (idle ramblings)


Highest evolutionary form of honor, devotion, and commitment to their
Fuedal Lords.  Utter dedication to their masters and strict adherence to a
code of conduct provided a high degree of order in Samurai soldiers.  These
soldiers were famous for their ferocity and skill in battle.  I addition to
their intense personal discipline, Samurai were also fairly-highly educated
and cultured.  Imagine, an army that can read and think, as well as fight.

Samurai engaged in personal duels for honor, rather than marching forward
shields locked.  And "strict adherence" and "think" is an oxymoron.  :-)

On the other hand, I'd trust 'em to go where they were told and do what they
were ordered to do more than the other armies.


Throw Ninjas into the mix...talk about killing machines...these warriors
accepted the idea that they would be killed in performance of their duties.
They were highly trained in the martials arts, stealth techniques, poisons,
fire, and much later, explosives.  Imagine trying to wage war after your
commanders have been assassinated while they slept, your water/livestock has
been poisoned and your lodgings have been set ablaze...

Yup, strike from behind in the dark.  Unfortunately, the stricture was a
gigantic battelfield.  Kinda useless there.


An important factor....Armor and Weapons.  Samurai on horseback have been
compared to the Mongols in terms of their skill and ruthless efficiency.
The advantage of mounted Samurai and Mongols was in their swiftness,
agility, and consderably less cumbersome armor.

Their big advantage was a powerful bow that they could use from horseback.  But
they aren't going to stand up to european cav in a charge.  At the same time,
they could fill a wider variety of roles.

Samurai were famous for
their horseback, archery skills European Knights were frequently killed by
tumblng from their steeds or rendered helpless by being knocked on their
back.

It was hard to tumble a Euro-Knight since their high front-and-back saddles
held them in place rather well.  The only way they would be helpless on their
back is from complete exhaustion (one reason why they rode a horse).

Katanas (swords), are also a considerable advantage.  These are
elegant, but deadly weapons.  The craftsmanship of these weapons is still a
marvel hundreds of years later.  Unlike European swords, more advanced
metallurgy skills were employed to produce them...the folding of layers of
steel upon each other produced a very stong but light weapon that was much
less cumbersome than its European counterparts.

A sword is a secondary weapon usually in european armies.  Bow, pike, spear,
halbard, lance, bill, and glaive were the primary weapons.


Training is worthy of note...Samurai and Ninjas are trained to be proficient
in the use of weapons, but also in hand to hand combat.

Weaponless in mass combat?  Where do you want 'em buried?  :-)


I'll have to think about the rest = )

                      John

(However, my favorite figs of all time (castle) are the 24 Knights
procession types I have-I wouldn't let them be routed)

The big advantage of samurai was that they could stand and pincushion you with
arrows, or melee.  Great tactical flexiblity with the training to handle
either.

Bruce



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