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| | | In lugnet.castle, Leonard Hoffman writes: Great post! (snipped it, but it's worth rereading...) I know some people don't like Orson Scott Card, and some do. But this book of his _How to Write Science Fiction & Fantasy_ is chock full of good advice. (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: Please read this! —Matt Hein
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| | | | (...) Well, I've got quite a nice list of books to peruse for christmas vacation. (not a bad collection, as that :) However, what if you were trying to fuse story types? For example, let's say you're writing the book in a historic stance, yet it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) What is the desired focus? That something is set in a particular time period does not in and of itself make it milleau... if the characters are what drive the story, it's still character. It's not a forcing per se I don't feel, but a way to (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Ursula Le Guin has identified the "multiple foci" perspective as the hardest to execute effectively. I'm not sure I agree 100%, but it's definitely tricky to write character sufficiently distinct from one another to allow the reader to believe (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Matt Hein
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| | | | (...) The desired focus by far would probably be event driven. (with a small amount of character thrown in as well.) (...) Okay, I haven't really gone into explanation of those, (technology) although there would be some minor inclusions when it (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) True, but we are talking about storycraft, not castle construction. On reflection, publish is the right place I think. (and not o-t.geek either) (...) Yes I have. I have not read all of it but I think much of what others said applies. I found (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Matt Hein
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| | | | | (...) Very well. (...) Okay, I'm working on that and a small index. (...) Hmm...you've got a point there. Perhaps I was trying to convey that he was rather evasive (?) Evasive to reveal his opinion? (...) Hmm...okay, the clouds were almost shaped (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Great. Now, a note... The samples I picked were just that, samples. I chose a few to illustrate a point, not that if you fix these you're all set. They're characteristic of much of the work that I read. (...) You're often better off not (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Matt Hein
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm going to fix the dialogue first, then work on the rest of the specifics. (...) Avoid it all costs so the reader can figure it out, then. Noted. (...) Ah, this sounds pretty fun, actually. Why make an enemy obvious when in fact, they would (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.publish, Matt Hein writes: <lots of good back and forth> I can't stay too long tonite, I got a mountain calling my name but I will just leave you with this one clarification _Wild Seed_ *is* a fantasy. It may not be the conventional swords (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Matt Hein
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) My apologies with the rather tenuous response. My family gave me a little ten minute ultimatum on the computer, so I was pressed to write the reply rather hastily. :) (...) Nah, conventional fantasy is *way* too repeated. Maybe I should (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Wayne McCaul
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| | | | | | | | | | Hi Matt, Just delurking to adding my two-cents. Of all the books on writing that I've read, Kit Reed's "Story First: The Writer As Insider" is, by far, the easiest to digest. She writes in a pretty straightforward, conversational tone. It's not (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —William R. Ward
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| | | | | | | | (...) It can, but Tom Swifties can be even more irritating to read. Often you can just skip the whole thing altogether, and just have the quotes, if it's two people speaking... Bob walked up to Mary and whispered in her ear. "I think we should go (...) (22 years ago, 25-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —William R. Ward
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| | | | | | (...) If you're writing science fiction/fantasy, take a look at the Usenet newsgroup rec.arts.sf.composition. There are some really great people there and a lot of good advice. You can find it via Google Groups if you don't have Usenet access... (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this! —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Boy, you and Sanburn are really zany for posting-group purity! 8^) I moved my part of the thread to ot.geek because I shifted into a particular discussion of authors, rather than the niceties of writing. But if you think it's better steered to (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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