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After many attempts and different versions, I believe we may have come up
with a "standard" wall section design for use in building a walled city at
Brickfest. This was suggested and discussed elsewhere in this thread.
To take a look at the most recent version, check here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17529
The wall is striped only for clarity in the pictures. The wall is intended
to be black. This will allow builders to save the light gray for their
buildings.
Others are encouraged to build wall sections, especially if they are
building something that abutts the wall. I can, however, supply a large
number of these myself.
Troy
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This project is beginning to look like something!
OK, do I understand this corrcetly, Troy will provide most the wall
sections, but we can make our own, especially if they include towers and
buildings which are built into the wall? A few more questions, is the wall
going to be square shaped, or will we go for a more challanging polyganol shape?
Are we gonna have a castle at all?
Jeff, how were you thinking of doing the various buildings,? Shall we all
bring various stuff or do you want to work out beforehand who builds what,
so we don't end up with say, 3 churches, 10 taverns, but no gatehouse for
the wall?
Another suggestion/question, do we want this town to be by the sea ior a
river, allowing for a docks area and medieval ships?
thoughts?
Magnus
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In lugnet.castle, Magnus Lauglo writes:
> This project is beginning to look like something!
>
> OK, do I understand this corrcetly, Troy will provide most the wall
> sections, but we can make our own, especially if they include towers and
> buildings which are built into the wall? A few more questions, is the wall
> going to be square shaped, or will we go for a more challanging polyganol
> shape?
We'll stick to a rectangular shape, unless the town layout starts expanding in
odd ways. Anything else would get too difficult to coordinate, IMO. Also, I'd
like to focus more on the town itself that the walls, which is one reason I
think having one person build most of them is a good idea.
> Are we gonna have a castle at all?
Probably not, unless the town gets large enough.
> Jeff, how were you thinking of doing the various buildings,? Shall we all
> bring various stuff or do you want to work out beforehand who builds what,
> so we don't end up with say, 3 churches, 10 taverns, but no gatehouse for
> the wall?
Everything will be planned out in advance. :) In fact, I set up a quick page
so we can keep track of who has what plots and is building what buildings. The
map doesn't show the walls yet. Remember, the default elevation is one brick
off the baseplate. Here is the page:
http://www.lugnet.com/events/brickfest/~150/
> Another suggestion/question, do we want this town to be by the sea ior a
> river, allowing for a docks area and medieval ships?
We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
interest, it can be done.
Jeff Stembel
Castle Room Coordinator
Brickfest 2002
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Magnus Lauglo writes:
> > This project is beginning to look like something!
> >
> > OK, do I understand this corrcetly, Troy will provide most the wall
> > sections, but we can make our own, especially if they include towers and
> > buildings which are built into the wall? A few more questions, is the wall
> > going to be square shaped, or will we go for a more challanging polyganol
> > shape?
>
> We'll stick to a rectangular shape, unless the town layout starts expanding in
> odd ways. Anything else would get too difficult to coordinate, IMO. Also, • I'd
> like to focus more on the town itself that the walls, which is one reason I
> think having one person build most of them is a good idea.
>
> > Are we gonna have a castle at all?
>
> Probably not, unless the town gets large enough.
>
> > Jeff, how were you thinking of doing the various buildings,? Shall we all
> > bring various stuff or do you want to work out beforehand who builds what,
> > so we don't end up with say, 3 churches, 10 taverns, but no gatehouse for
> > the wall?
>
> Everything will be planned out in advance. :) In fact, I set up a quick page
> so we can keep track of who has what plots and is building what buildings. • The
> map doesn't show the walls yet. Remember, the default elevation is one brick
> off the baseplate. Here is the page:
> http://www.lugnet.com/events/brickfest/~150/
>
> > Another suggestion/question, do we want this town to be by the sea ior a
> > river, allowing for a docks area and medieval ships?
>
> We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> interest, it can be done.
I'd like to do a warf section, let me work on it this weekend and see where I
get (I don't want to overcommit). I will certainly bring my two Wolfpack ships
(though we may need to borrow them for the Pirate Game).
Frank
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In lugnet.castle, Frank Filz writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Magnus Lauglo writes:
> > > This project is beginning to look like something!
> > >
> > > OK, do I understand this corrcetly, Troy will provide most the wall
> > > sections, but we can make our own, especially if they include towers and
> > > buildings which are built into the wall? A few more questions, is the wall
> > > going to be square shaped, or will we go for a more challanging polyganol
> > > shape?
> >
> > We'll stick to a rectangular shape, unless the town layout starts expanding in
> > odd ways. Anything else would get too difficult to coordinate, IMO. Also, • I'd
> > like to focus more on the town itself that the walls, which is one reason I
> > think having one person build most of them is a good idea.
> >
> > > Are we gonna have a castle at all?
> >
> > Probably not, unless the town gets large enough.
> >
> > > Jeff, how were you thinking of doing the various buildings,? Shall we all
> > > bring various stuff or do you want to work out beforehand who builds what,
> > > so we don't end up with say, 3 churches, 10 taverns, but no gatehouse for
> > > the wall?
> >
> > Everything will be planned out in advance. :) In fact, I set up a quick page
> > so we can keep track of who has what plots and is building what buildings. • The
> > map doesn't show the walls yet. Remember, the default elevation is one brick
> > off the baseplate. Here is the page:
> > http://www.lugnet.com/events/brickfest/~150/
> >
> > > Another suggestion/question, do we want this town to be by the sea ior a
> > > river, allowing for a docks area and medieval ships?
> >
> > We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> > interest, it can be done.
>
> I'd like to do a warf section, let me work on it this weekend and see where I
> get (I don't want to overcommit). I will certainly bring my two Wolfpack ships
> (though we may need to borrow them for the Pirate Game).
I'll also bring my two ships, the Katana and the Athena (which is
technically an airship, but will work fine in the water). I'll likely build
a few town sections as well, if I can get the inspiration to do so.
Adrian
--
www.brickfrenzy.com
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> interest, it can be done.
Jeff,
I actually built a seaside section with a wharf section and tavern atop it
already. Does this help at all?
Jay
http://www.ozbricks.net/valaria
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Hi,
Does anyone have a picture of the stairs on the baseplate used for the 6090
castle? Or could they describe them to me? I'm working on this as my next
LDraw part and I can't get a good view of this complex area from any picture
I have.
Thanks in advance
William
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In lugnet.castle, William Howard writes:
> Does anyone have a picture of the stairs on the baseplate used for the 6090
> castle? Or could they describe them to me? I'm working on this as my next
> LDraw part and I can't get a good view of this complex area from any picture
> I have.
I am not the CAD expert by any means, but no one else seems to be replying
to your posts so I will. I think the silence you are hearing has to do with
the fact that the accepted wisdom is to model only elements that you have in
hand. Having the element in hand allows you to see every side of it, take
measurements, compare it to other elements, etc. Having that information,
you can compare the real world relationships between elements to those
amongst LDraw elements. Obviously, you would then use this information to
model and refine your proposed LDraw element.
There's nothing wrong with requesting pictures, but do note that it places a
burden on a person with the element in hand and alleviates you of the need
to acquire one -- which the accepted wisdom claims you should do for the
above stated reasons.
-- Hop-Frog
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While 'Net surfing, I came across the preceding message,
and I thought I'd post comments.
> ... the accepted wisdom is to model only elements that
> you have in hand.
To the best of my recollection, the above is a *requirement*
(not just "accepted practice").
> Having the element in hand allows you to see every side of it,
> take measurements, compare it to other elements, etc. Having that
> information, you can compare the real world relationships between
> elements to those amongst LDraw elements. Obviously, you would
> then use this information to model and refine your proposed LDraw
> element.
An eloquent explanation. If someone decides to document this
in one of the FAQs, I hope they incorporate your text into it.
Franklin
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In lugnet.castle, William Howard writes:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have a picture of the stairs on the baseplate used for the 6090
> castle? Or could they describe them to me? I'm working on this as my next
> LDraw part and I can't get a good view of this complex area from any picture
> I have.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> William
I don't know if this will help much but you can use this:
http://library.brickshelf.com/scans/6000/6090/6090-04.html
--Kevin W. §
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I believe the 6090 castle baseplate has already been encoded, see this post:
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
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In lugnet.castle, William Howard writes:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have a picture of the stairs on the baseplate used for the 6090
> castle? Or could they describe them to me? I'm working on this as my next
> LDraw part and I can't get a good view of this complex area from any picture
> I have.
This part is already been done: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
Jeff
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In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, William Howard writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have a picture of the stairs on the baseplate used for the 6090
> > castle? Or could they describe them to me? I'm working on this as my next
> > LDraw part and I can't get a good view of this complex area from any picture
> > I have.
>
> This part is already been done: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
Jeff,
Did you want this part submitted to the Parts Tracker, so it can be
added to the LDraw.org part library?
Steve
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> Did you want this part submitted to the Parts Tracker, so it can be
> added to the LDraw.org part library?
>
> Steve
Note that there is at least one other part encoded by Jeff but never
made official, its part 6056, also used in set 6090.
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In lugnet.castle, Steve Bliss writes:
> In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
>
> > This part is already been done: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
>
> Jeff,
>
> Did you want this part submitted to the Parts Tracker, so it can be
> added to the LDraw.org part library?
Yes, I'd appreciate that.
Jeff
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In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Steve Bliss writes:
> > In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
> >
> > > This part is already been done: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Did you want this part submitted to the Parts Tracker, so it can be
> > added to the LDraw.org part library?
>
> Yes, I'd appreciate that.
OK, I'll do it just this once. ;)
If you've got other files you want submitted, please zip them up and
email them to me at parts@ldraw.org.
Steve
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In lugnet.cad, Steve Bliss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.castle, Steve Bliss writes:
> > > In lugnet.cad, Jeff Stembel wrote:
> > >
> > > > This part is already been done: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=315
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Did you want this part submitted to the Parts Tracker, so it can be
> > > added to the LDraw.org part library?
> >
> > Yes, I'd appreciate that.
>
> OK, I'll do it just this once. ;)
If I'd realized how many 'bad vertex sequences' were in that file, I
might not have been so eager. ;) At any rate, the file has been
L3P-cleaned, I've added a function to the LDAO Editor to straighten out
'bad vertex sequences', and the file is on the 'tracker.
Steve
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In lugnet.castle, Jason Cicchini writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> > interest, it can be done.
> Jeff,
> I actually built a seaside section with a wharf section and tavern atop it
> already. Does this help at all?
Sure, I'll add it to the layout. :)
Jeff
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jason Cicchini writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> > > interest, it can be done.
> > Jeff,
> > I actually built a seaside section with a wharf section and tavern atop it
> > already. Does this help at all?
>
> Sure, I'll add it to the layout. :)
The layout is now updated:
http://www.lugnet.com/events/brickfest/~150/
Jeff
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Jason Cicchini wrote:
>
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > We'd need enough people willing to make wharves and docks. If there is
> > interest, it can be done.
> Jeff,
> I actually built a seaside section with a wharf section and tavern atop it
> already. Does this help at all?
>
> Jay
> http://www.ozbricks.net/valaria
Jason,
Do you have pictures of your wharf section? I plan on trying to make an
adjacent section, and it would be nice for it to match up decently.
Frank
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In lugnet.castle, Frank Filz writes:
> Jason,
>
> Do you have pictures of your wharf section? I plan on trying to make an
> adjacent section, and it would be nice for it to match up decently.
>
> Frank
Frank,
No pics at the moment, but I will be taking some ASAP. When they're done,
I'll post them here.
-Jay
http://www.ozbricks.net/valaria/
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