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Hi All, Sorry for being late. Vacation time. :-) Missing those margaritas on the Mexican beach already.... This months winner for Model Of The Month is Shimpei Ohsumi for a remarkably accurate rendition of the Honda Bite. Love that minimalist (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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| | Re: Description of MLCad extensions available now
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(...) Thanks for the moderating comment. Michael, here is a suggestion for what you can write about the rights to your specification: © Copyright 2002, Michael L. Since this document is made available free of charge, I can not make any promises (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello, I think we should wait what Michael is coming up with before making harsh comments. I followed this whole discussion from the start and i think it's always right to state your opinion - but please do this in a constructive way. Thank you. (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MLCad extensions in the files on Parts Tracker
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(...) OK, leave it in, but it still makes me nervous. Let's wait and see if Michael comes to his senses and drops the license. Don (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I know. But if we have to disable LDGLite on Munin, that basically means that we have to deactivate the whole parts tracker. And if it should have any real meaning, we should also stop distributing the LDraw parts library, since it probably (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Oops, I meant to put a link to this here. (URL) think everyone should read and think about it before they make any sort of decision involving licenses. Enjoy, Don (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Perhaps, but you and I are not lawyers, and from my viewpoint intellectual property law is a complete mess right now. Who knows what a lawyer might think. (...) I agree, that doesn't make much sense. When the topic came up on the Mac Ldraw (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes, what's needed here is NO license, not a NEW license. Michael if you're using MLCAD to bring visitors to your site in order to drum up business for your software company, that's fine. Just ask politely and we'll provide the links for (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Description of MLCad extensions available now
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(...) If your new license for puts any restrictions whatsoever on the right to use or implement your extensions, you can just as well save your own time and leave it as it is. Play well, Jacob (who might decide to act like the BOFH he really is) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I do not think it is necessary, since the version of LDGLite we are using was developed before the MLCAD documentation was published. But maybe I should ban all non-Open Source software on Munin? (but that it would prevent the distribution of (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi, i've found some more commands in MLCad which I introduced totaly new, ... but long time ago. So there is this ROTATION command, which was used at the early days of MLCad instead of ROTSTEP. Later I learned that this conflicts with LD-Lite. So I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Don (& all) - The fact that the MLCAD extensions are under such license makes me very nervous as well. I am of the opinion that any extensions used with the LDraw file format should be documented on LDraw.org and made freely available for use (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Meanwhile, Steve could you switch the parts tracker to use MLCAD instead of ldglite to generate the image files? The whole license thing and especially the "liable for damages" part makes me nervous. I don't want to be sued just because (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That, and the fact that MLCAD adds two 0 ROTATION statements to the header of every model file it edits. (...) Actually, only commented-out versions of the ROTATION meta-statement have appeared in parts (ie, '0 0 ROTATION'). The submit process (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Perhaps the use of the "ROTATION CENTER" meta statement in the parts library can be changed into a different, non-licensed format? The word "CENTER" breaks the standing LDraw tradition of using British English terms anyway. In my opinion it (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Uh Oh, we need some *unlicensed* documentation on this meta command. It's already used in some official parts. If I have to get permission in writing to use all the features of the official parts (or be liable for unspecified damages) I'm (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: File Header request for Minifig Parts
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hi steve, (...) many thx for the hint. (...) are we takling about categories like "brick" and "plate" or sub-categories, which will need a renaming of the header? probably the fact that I just use MLCad causes some misunderstanding. I can't see a (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ASSOCIATE (was: Re: Renaming of 2916.dat)
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(...) WAY better than using naming to overload. 2916 and 2917 get at best a very weak association if they have train in their name. With the ASSOCIATE keyword extension it becomes quite explicit what their connection is. (and parts can also have (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ASSOCIATE (was: Re: Renaming of 2916.dat)
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(...) Yes. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ASSOCIATE (was: Re: Renaming of 2916.dat)
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(...) Hmm. Interesting idea. So part 3937 (URL) might have an entry like: 0 ASSOCIATE 3938 6134 and part 3938 (URL) might have: 0 ASSOCIATE 3937 2440 (of course, these examples capture information that otherwise might be captured by a connectivity (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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