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Hi We have a collection of 4.5V train motors on the LDraw Parts Tracker, and I'd like some help sorting out the variants of this part. On the PT right now we have x579c01 (by Michael Heidemann) - (URL) - this is the 4x12x4 version x581c01 (by (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inv)
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(...) I have checked my collection of train motors (which has reached an amount of 9), including all three mentioned variants. (Please note that I have changed the order of the quoted lists from Chris' message) (...) Got this one in blue, with a (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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<SNIP> Thanks Niels for taking the time to research this. I have updated the part names based on this information - to remove the voltage designation and correct the dimensions. Regarding your comment "The parts look good, I only miss metal (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm confused. Are these parts generally openable - are the actual motors removeable (by the average user)? If they are removeable, then the (shortcut) names should include "case", since they aren't actually the motor. If the motors are not (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, including case is good. As Niels indicated, the 4 x 12 x 3 1/3 versions are openable with a screwdriver, allowing the actual motors to be replaced, so I think the term "Shortcut" is correct. The 4 x 12 x 4 version is glued, so I'll change (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The actual motors (both 12V and 4.5V) were sold seperately as replacement packs, so users can screw open the case and replace the motor (either replacing a broken motor or replace a 4.5V motor with a 12V motor or vice versa). (URL) 12V (peeron (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
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(...) The Type I motor (x564c01) supports both the old style power pickup brick with the plugs at the front (URL) as well as the new style power pickup brick with the plugs at the rear. (URL) The Type II motor (x581c01) supports only the new style (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
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(...) The cases were also sold separately: (URL) Set 1215 which was only the lower half of a Type II housing. It allowed a user to change a Type I motor (an earlier version without the hole) into the updated Type II (with the centre hole). HTH, (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I just checked my motor cases. The Type I motor cases and Type 2 motor cases are NOT interchangable. To update a Type I motor to a Type II motor you need a Type II top case, a Type II bottom case and a Type II gearbox. (The gearbox is the (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Variants of 4.5v / 12v train motors
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(...) Would you be able to take a critical look at the sizes of the connector studs and the holes in them. There is a suggestion that these differ between the versions designed to work with the old Blue 2-pin connectors ((URL) those which fit the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.trains)
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(...) I checked my motors again, only one per type (I didn't want to dismantle all my locomotives that use the motors). Here are my measurement results: x570c01 (blue): Outer plug diameter: 5 mm Inner plug diameter: 2.1 mm Plug height: 2.1 mm (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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