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Re: Variants of 4.5v train motors
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Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:49:56 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Chris Dee wrote:
   In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote:
   I’m confused. Are these parts generally openable - are the actual motors removeable (by the average user)? If they are removeable, then the (shortcut) names should include “case”, since they aren’t actually the motor.

If the motors are not removable, then the c01 files should be “Complete”, not “Shortcut”, and the voltage designation should remain.

Yes, including case is good.

As Niels indicated, the 4 x 12 x 3 1/3 versions are openable with a screwdriver, allowing the actual motors to be replaced, so I think the term “Shortcut” is correct.

The actual motors (both 12V and 4.5V) were sold seperately as replacement packs, so users can screw open the case and replace the motor (either replacing a broken motor or replace a 4.5V motor with a 12V motor or vice versa).

12V (peeron part# x551) as set 703 http://guide.lugnet.com/set/703_1
4.5V (peeron part# x482) as set 104 http://guide.lugnet.com/set/104_1

  
  
   I think I might also generate two small red/white sub-pseudoparts for the voltage indication, and include these in the shortcuts to show through the hole.

If you’re going to do that, you might as well put the voltage in the part names (for the shortcut/complete files).

Of course - that was my plan. The voltage valiue that is visible through the “window” is part of a sticker on the actual motor, but I don’t think we need to model all the guts.

As shown above, the 4.5V motor has a red label with ‘4V’ in white, the 12V motor has a yellow label with ‘12V’ in white. These labels can be seen through the hole in the top cover, so the user can see the voltage for the motor.

  
  
   That way we can have voltage-specific shortcuts (which should help peeron and bricklink straighten out thier inventories), without needing to make the casing voltage-specific.

(showing my lack of knowledge on pre-9V trains) Was the casing used for multiple voltages? This thread has only mentioned 4.5V.

That’s what Niels confirmed - I had to SNIP his response due the LUGNET 90% comments blocker.

Yes, the case for the 4x12x3 1/3 motors have been used for both 4.5V and 12V. IIRC 12V only for trains between 1969 and 1979, 4.5V for trains and town and basic.

Niels



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  Re: Variants of 4.5v train motors
 
(...) The cases were also sold separately: (URL) Set 1215 which was only the lower half of a Type II housing. It allowed a user to change a Type I motor (an earlier version without the hole) into the updated Type II (with the centre hole). HTH, (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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  Re: Variants of 4.5v train motors
 
(...) Yes, including case is good. As Niels indicated, the 4 x 12 x 3 1/3 versions are openable with a screwdriver, allowing the actual motors to be replaced, so I think the term "Shortcut" is correct. The 4 x 12 x 4 version is glued, so I'll change (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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