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(...) Optional, yes. Good point. (...) Which would basically be "download LDRAW.EXE and all the LCAD updates" (...) Using the right Win31 Program Manager API calls would do away with the need for a Win32 install; program folders and icons can be (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) And (potentially) splitmpd, l3p, and ldscript. Any others I'm forgetting? (...) Right, except why include the Win32 programs for people who can't use them? Most of the huge-o programs (LDAO) are 32-bit. It's not a big deal on CD distributions, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) + a batch file to run them all in sequence? Just as a minor convenience, I suppose, tho. If there's demand, you could possibly make a linux shell-script to do the same. I don't know - do linux DOS emulators have the ability to run DOS .EXEs, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I personally don't use these tools. Thus, I would be unlikely to want to download them if I were surfing via modem. Hmmm... I might be muddling things. My point is this: Let the main archive, parts updates, and separate tools be available (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Umm, that would be really great if you did that. We never came up with a replacement for James' original makelist.exe (which can only handle 1000 parts). How big would a distributable of your Perl-makelist be? And how easy would it be for (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Just to create some facts & data to work from, I created zip files containing various parts of the whole LDraw family. Here's what I got: Original LDraw and all parts: 2.1MB +DOS tools: 2.3MB +Win32 tools: 4.8MB (not including L3PAO & its (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Why the limitation on 1000 parts? Have all the makelist implementations shelled out to call sort.exe? I'm sure there's a quicksort call in the ANSI C libraries, and stl has some great capabilities for those of the C++ persuasion... (...) Well, (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. (1) (...) You've done this before, haven't you? Man, what a headache. :-P This is why I don't write the install code at work. I have learned one thing: avoid avoid avoid InstallShield! How do you like the Wise install tool? Would it (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd guess the limitation is because James allocated a 1000-element array to hold the data lines. The problem I ran into when I tried a rewrite was I was using a shareware version of Basic, which wouldn't support the memory usage I needed, so I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like Wise very much. I don't *think* I've used InstallShield, maybe I tried once. Anyway, I know I don't want to try it. I've mostly used Wise to package VB apps, but it works really well, and very easily. With the new version, I just point (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Which DOS tools are these? I don't remember any being particularly large... (...) Same for this... LDAO is 2.something Mb, right? What's the rest? --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It's Ldraw _+_ the dos tools. so the dos tools are 200k (...) same for this - 2.3 meg ldraw 'n' stuff, rest LDAO. Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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By the way I took a look of what takes that much space in ldao and it happens that it is mostly the vb6 virtual machine and the comctl.ocx. Since those are already correctly installed in the system of all those who used the previous install you (...) (26 years ago, 17-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yep. I'm still (when I have time) playing with this in Wise. Steve (26 years ago, 17-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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