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Well, since we've discussed some of the logistics behind producing the CD, its time to get the organization down. First off, I'll send out emails to everyone who has contributed a utility that works with the LDraw system, and get permission to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.datfest)
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Why don't you simply publish ldraw.org website on the cd? All the stuff is there, right? Build On! John Matthews Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:FpG5Gw.DxE@lugnet.com... (...) its (...) that (...) the (...) to (...) which (...) (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Actually, not all the stuff is there. And it would be best to include some resources which are not on ldraw.org, such as the LDraw and LEdit tutorial, personal creations, animations, etc. The HTML Guide to the CD-ROM that I have in my head (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I can't be sure of this, but I might try a Visual Basic program that would give the user a option of what programs to install and where. That away, if the user doesn't want all the stuff on the harddrive, he doesn't have to install it. Another thing (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wouldn't try that. Too many people don't have VB runtimes installed, and just throwing them on the CD doesn't work (unless you want to make people install them first, which is a pain, but could work). I tried going this route when I was (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Thanks. I never thought of that. One thing I know, though, I am getting one of these CDs as soon as I can! Adam Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:ruqo9sc26ah72os...4ax.com... (...) would (...) if (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) How much of a pain? Can it be as simple as a window prompting them to give approval to add them? Or is it much more painful than that? (...) Sounds good, we'll have a better picture of what's needed as far as a menu goes when resources are (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) There is an exe file that microsoft publishes that contains the core vb runtime dll files. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) You *don't* want to use a VB-based program as an installer. Before a VB program can run, all the VB-runtime files have to be installed. This means that the setup program has to install multi-megabytes of *system* files before the user sees (...) (24 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve Bliss wrote: < don't use a VB based installer> That is the truth!!! In spades. Trust me. Been there, did that, got the T-Shirt. (...) InstallShield? (24 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Larry: (...) [...] (...) Probably. It's a mess to use (IMO), but you can get pretty good results with it. Play well, Jacob (who generally claims total ignorance of Windows) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- (...) (24 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That is all well and good but remember that is a lot of cases the vb runtime dlls are going to be installed anyway, when things like LDAO or the like are installed. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (24 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So? In many more cases, the VB runtimes will *not* be installed. And the not-installed machines are more likely to be run by the technically-un-savvy. An easy-to-use installer doesn't do any good if it won't run on the majority of machines. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Well, I don't like the idea of asking someone to install runtimes before "my" program will work. It looks cheesy, I think, and unprofessional. And it certainly wasn't an option for the company I was doing this project for or for me, (...) (24 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yeah, I agree here. (...) Ok, will do. I'll at least play around with it to get a feel. Is it WYSIWYG? (I guess I'll find out)... -Tim (24 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) You'll find out, and yes, it is a layout-type program. Get it setup the way you want it, and if I can take your saved project file and just compile it (you'd have to give me a place to grab the cd from, or maybe burn one copy for me) and burn (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) of (...) I haven't been following this thread to closely, but uh, are you considering machines that are not running Windows. LdGLite 0.4 is due to be released real soon and should run pretty well on Linux and the Mac in addition to Windows. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So like, I should design the look of it the way I want, and you'll make it work or something? (sorry, its late, I got back from being out and having the most fun I've had in a LONG time, so my brain's a little fried) -Tim (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Don: (...) There should definitely be binaries for both DOS, Linux, and MacOS where it is possible. Or maybe no DOS and just MS-Windows? How many OS/2 users do we have? (at least one) (...) Isn't that what the ISO-(can't remember the number) file (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Right. I *think* you should be able to design it and save it, then send the saved file to me, and let me compile it into the distributable executable. I don't *think* there are licensing issues with that, but I will check. I know I'm licensed (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I was under the impression that the ISO-9660? filesystem was only 8.3 UPPERCASE or something like that. All the operating system vendors then added their own extensions to get long filenames with mixed case. Linux uses Rock Ridge. Microsoft (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Apple wants a partition type "HFS" which is their disk system. Having one makes your CDROM appear natively: icons, window placement, file type/creator codes all that stuff is embedded in HFS directories. Many hybrid CDs (games) have separate (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) UPPERCASE (...) makes (...) Yes, HFS, that's it. A search for "HFS", "rock ridge", and "joliet" turns up several GUI tools for making hybrid CD filesystems such as the ones at www.cdeverywhere.com and www.cdr.com. I've personally only used the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Sounds cool, I just got a burner, so if someone could supply me with blanks i could do some of the burning. That is, of course, thats you haven't made preps with a pro CD makeing company. If you get all the people intrested in LDraw and who own (...) (24 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hey tim, would it be possible to include samples of .dats and POV rendered files on the cd? If so, I have nearly finished my .dat of 8448 - V8 Supercar MkII. All I need is the wheels, so it should be finished when they are. Will you accept samples (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hey Tim, Will L3P v1.2 be on the CDROM? I can't seem to get a copy from anywhere. If anybody knows where a copy can be found, please let me know. Lars seems to be MIA. -Chuck (24 years ago, 11-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Interesting question. Because the mythical OMR doesn't exist yet, we're not including that on the CD. But we also need to take up space (to increase the amount of size - strange Povray redistribution rules and money). So I believe we can take (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) As of now, 1.1 resides on the CD master. I'll make a definite note to take a look and get the later version. Lars is still around, I believe Terry Keller has had email contact with them (in preparation for KidV) recently. Thanks for the (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jun-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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