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(...) Except me. ;) Seriously, this is why I butt into animation discussions. I care so much I want other people to at least come up with something that will survive time. I don't want someone to create something that will be incompatible with what (...) (19 years ago, 29-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, why not. :) (19 years ago, 28-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is it OK if we share? ;^) Kev (19 years ago, 28-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hey you, don't steal my philosophy! :) (19 years ago, 28-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Anders Isaksson wrote: <snip> (...) Ah, yes.... but only if you leave it to a committee! LOL! As the who has, invented the most meta-commands (I know, no LPub experience), I just create what I need, and tell people about them. No (...) (19 years ago, 28-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, but you can give the 'files' any name you want inside the MPD. They don't *have* to match the part name outside of the MPD. So you *can* get named parts inside an MPD (with the help of a suitable 'post-processing' program). I certainly (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, hair goes under the category "Hat". It may sound a little strange, but that's the way it has to be. Like I said: 0 FILE Head 0 Name: Head 0 [This Object] 1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3626bp01.dat 0 [Child Objects] 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, this is what Anders was trying to get me to understand. The MPD framework provides a name visibility barrier (scope). I still say that LDraw type 1 lines are used to specify hierarchy. The <file> names within the MPD can be used to (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's a very good idea I didn't think of! The approach I was thinking of is unnecessarily complicated. Looks like there will be no need for the tags I mentioned earlier. No pain at all. I think all current minifig generators can be easily (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Um, I'm not sure this has been worked out... I think James was saying that the subfiles in an MPD can be treated as the 'name'. This is true, as long as you also require that each subfile only be used once. So a file like: 0 FILE test1.mpd 1 (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, I... don't use MLCad ether... :) (...) Yes, Templates is a word I was looking for! :) (...) Lunch break is too short to give an example of how I mean. I will try to explain later this evening/night (CET) /Tore (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Could you please expalin why this is so? I guess I just don't get it. (...) Groups are an invention in MLCad. (...) Ah, we are talking the same thing. "983.dat" is no good. Yes, the tags give you metion give you a unique name (within the scope (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's correct, but irrelevant. The hieriarchy is communicated with one single MPD in a way that would be impossible using one single DAT/LDR - if you put it together correctly, of course. (...) I have never used LPub so I'm not familiar with (...) (19 years ago, 27-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ha, ha, ha.... I had this long winded response argument all typed out, and then Mozilla died. Probably divine intervention. Let me try and see if I can get this one out with less energy. According to this specification: (URL) provides two (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) But as I said, if you put all instances, that need to be named, in a subfile of its own you *have* named instances. It wouldn't be too difficult to write a helper program (or add-on) that does this folding for you (creating a subfile of (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I guess I was not even considering STEP, ROTSTEP or CLEAR as meaningful for animation. I was only really considering type 1 lines as useful, just to describe the models components, so we agree. I was thinking about a higher level scripting (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I really should write a part 2.... Basically, it involves converting the model to povray (or whatever, blender even). If the conversion process retains the parent-child hierarchy, then you don't have to go into the converted code and 1) add (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) animations. I don't see how these ideas help us script anything. Can you explain what I'm missing? (...) Yes, and I was talking about trying to get to the second half of what you list.... scripting language.... without talking about GUIs for (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) LDraw mixes part type and part name........ For library parts, we specify its part type (filename). For sub-models we specify its filename (same thing in both cases). In C++ we have classes, and instance of classes. In LDraw the names of the (...) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No. I've said this before and don't understand why others don't understand this yet. See my article: (URL) whole animation issue makes me dizzy. It is one big circle: (URL) (19 years ago, 26-Oct-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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