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Re: A project suggestion= Let's develop a Theme ourselves....
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lugnet.cad, lugnet.general, lugnet.town
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Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:35:10 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Braden Fox writes:
Okay, so if we do build canals, what are yours gonna be like?? I've been
wanting to build one since the working lego ones i saw at legoland, but
who has the grey bricks to do the side walls?? Or, would you guys mae it
like a trench in a lego layuout table?

My idea was to have baseplates with a flatened portion to be the canal rather
like the roads have a road portion- Problem. - Cant have actual floating boats.

However there are a number of other ways

2 nd soloution - Have a trench to float the baots in. Problem: Sealent between
plates( If modular 'base-plate'system.) + Have to raise surronding plates.

3Rd option is a compromise. Have a 32x32(NB I am using intelligent mis-
scaling.) with the middle 18x18 Section raised by 4 bricks. Sink a 16X16
trench in that.- Obviously you would need some steps along the bank but its
workable.

4th Option - BRIO(tm) type system..? Possibly an idea for Duplo(R) here...

5th Option - have a 16x16 plate with a 14x14 flattened portion. Then use
specialised side peices.- (Or indeed the sloped panel with rock pattern on it)
- Again sealign for water tightness might be a problem.
But option 5 opens up possibilites for other uses of the parts such as
improved landscape consturction.- No more BURPS!!


just kind of got into this discussion,
so i'm just curious. Anyone have other ideas fo the walls of the canals,
not just how damn big you're gonna make em? :o)

Anyways, i don't remmeber who said it, but Canada has lots of canals,
with locks too! I saw a few last summer right in Ontario. Narrow ones
though, but still neat. Also, i've seen a lot accross Europe, and some of
them really aren't that wide, but i guess those are only for passengers
than.


Well the ones here in england atarted out as being purely for industrial
purposes way back in the late 18th Century. Some of them are small because
they where to most extents built without modern mechanised techniques.

Alex


Braden Fox






In lugnet.cad, Alex Farlie writes:
In lugnet.cad, Kevin Wilson writes:
Farlie A wrote:

Well no lock because I was thinking more along the lines of the • systems in
Europe (and possibly Norfolk?) which as far as I am away don't have • locks.
Ie
canal as in Ship Canal?

Inland navigable water systems have to have some method of • changing
level, which usually means locks (there are other methods, but they • are
less common). Water going downhill tends to get a bit too exciting for
reliable passenger or freight transport :-)

That said some ideas for new X-trem team sets could have a waterfall?

From a Lego POV, in fact
you would be better off keeping everything on the same level but a • canal
or river system without locks would seem a bit odd.

Perhaps we could have a lock plate at the upper end of 'canal' built • using
the theme?  The problem is then how you suppourt the uuper plates? or • produce
a workable lock in between easilly? I have also noticed someone • suggesting
having a split plates in another message on this thread. This is an • excellent
idea!!

European water
navigation sytems do indeed have locks, including on rivers like the
Rhine, very large ones in fact! LL Windsor has a nice set of locks in
the Sweden area of miniland, IIRC.

One thing to bear in mind is that canal systems vary widely from • country
to country and are almost non-existent in the US as compared to • Europe.
Sounds like you're planning a UK-style canal system which might • not have
very wide appeal.

Not at all. Like I said above. Think navigable waterway (as in • Shannon,
Missipi,Rhur etc.) not Birtish Canal (as in the Grand Union). I think • that
river based navigational  'systems' exist in the US?

We're talking big, wide waterways here. Even road width of a standard
roadplate would only be about equivalent to a Brit-style narrow canal.
Narrowboats are 8ft wide I believe which would approximate to the • same
width as a car for lego purposes.

Or Dutch Polders?- I seem to recall them being narrow compared to • large river
baed systems?


Canal was just a convinent notation for the parts and sets.
I felt river would have meant lesiure craft only. I wanted something • that
involved frieght movment as well as passangers!!

I agree. I like the whole idea very much but I think you're thinking
tooo small scale! If this is our own theme we don't have to stick with
Lego's production limitations, we could use 32x32-stud blue plates for
the waterway.

I was using 32x32 as base size in case TLG tunes in and lifts • suggestions and
also so that it was compatiable if I ever put in the drawings to TLG • myself.
Perhaps I need to consider using larger basplate ie 48x48 or even • 64x64?

Or maybe my ideas for a 'narrow' canal are in keeping with the • intellignet mis-
scaling in Lego(R) Town? (Opnions Lugneters!).




Another nice thing about introducing canals or rivers is that they give
us a great excuse for bridges!

Yeah!!! :-)))

Alex


Kevin
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Okay, so if we do build canals, what are yours gonna be like?? I've been wanting to build one since the working lego ones i saw at legoland, but who has the grey bricks to do the side walls?? Or, would you guys mae it like a trench in a lego layuout (...) (24 years ago, 16-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general, lugnet.town)

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