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  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) For me, the argument comes back to process vs. product, as was discussed in the previous thread. Additionally, it raises the question of whether LDraw is a tool for the end-users or a tool for the reviewers. The extended period of discussion (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'm intrigued - the only point in that last sentence that differentiates the "indecipherable gobbledygook" from the inline POV is that the latter "yields a greatly superior output image". It's certainly no less invisible to the end-user, nor (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) Despite indications of a steady - if not increasing - rate of new file submission. The post-CA parts updates have shown a steady trend of reducing the backlog, bravo to Chris and the reviewers and the authors! (...) Thanks for the link. Could (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDConfig_Alt.ldr
 
(...) I think you need to add some clouds to Datsville ;) Your light settings are very bright! I have just done some test renders that look decent. I agree that these colors may not be perfect for Pov-Ray rendering, because I'm not a rendering (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) Yes, the total number of files on the Parts Tracker is now at it lowest since Sep 2007. The u* decision was ratified by the LSC on 5 Feb 2010 and a link to (URL) was posted to Latest News on the LDraw.org home page. Chris (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
In lugnet.announce, Chris Dee wrote: [snipped announcement of 2010-02 parts update] Nice! You *have* been cutting the backlog (based on the PT history graph), awesome! BTW, was there public info about the u* part numbering? I saw that u* parts were (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) Thanks for your kind words. I guess I forgot that this update is the first to include files that exceed the 8.3 naming, and we needed a new version of mklist.exe. I'm not sure what happened to the version 1.6 beta annouced at (URL) contact Don (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) Another great update and a promise of a third in the making. Your hard work is much appreciated - more than you may realize from the number of replies you get here. I have announced the update on a couple of forums and people are axcited to (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
First of all: once again thanks to all who made this possible. Very impressive update! The thing is now that my mklist does not create a new parts.lst file. I can choose between Number of Description. It starts counting x parts found, but no new (...) (14 years ago, 6-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) That's quite a massive update! Thank You All, part developers, reviewers, organizers, pushers, whatever-s! This is definitely appreciated. (14 years ago, 5-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  MLCad.ini 2010-02 Update Now Available
 
Hi, I just updated the MLCad.ini file accordingly to the latest LDraw.org parts update 2010-02. The .ini file defines (among other things) the parts available in MLCad's minifigure generator. Download the file from my website: (URL) w. (14 years ago, 5-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.announce)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
(...) ... links now fixed. Chris (14 years ago, 5-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
Thanks for the hard work, Chris! (...) ...the links to the dat files in parts preview do not work... Philo (14 years ago, 5-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  LDraw.org 2010-02 Parts Update Now Available
 
The 2010-02 LDraw parts update has been now been released. This update includes 950 files in the core library, including 471 new parts, and many more files updated with improvements for Back Face Culling support. A further 10 parts have been (...) (14 years ago, 5-Jul-10, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad) !! 
 
  Re: LDConfig_Alt.ldr
 
(...) Well, that depends on where you use it. In L3P, I think black is much better in your version, while lightgrey still looks white and green is maybe better but still way too bright. (URL) there any LDConfig optimized for L3P out there? Or is it (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LDConfig_Alt.ldr
 
(...) The LDConfig_Alt file has more realistic colors. To use it in MLCAD (version 3.3 or higher), you need to rename LDConfig.ldr to something like LDConfig_BlackEdges.ldr and rename LDConfig_Alt.ldr to LDConfig.ldr. MLCAD will read the file and (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I know, I know. Fair call. I should have learnt years ago never to claim I'm taking my bat and ball and going home. That is lame. Please pretend I murfled both hissy fits. I find it much too difficult to resist attacks against my person and (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Nowhere have you presented an argument that differ in any way from the "collective dogma," so I don't see why your argument should be treated any differently. (...) Don't tease. In your previous reply you said that you were done with the (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) --snip-- So pretty much you're saying you think that anyone who disagrees with you does so not from their own reasoned perspective but because of some collective dogma. Well now that we've cleared that up I'll know never to bother with you (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Speaking of ray-tracing then, I prusume... (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Quick! Somebody bring up the separation of church and state! (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
<snip> And here I was... thinking the old LUGNET was gone forever. (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray) ! 
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) You've been parroting the company line in this thread and that previous one, so even though you're not literally affiliated with the LSC, you're playing the part of cheerleader here, so it's pretty much the same thing. Your position is not (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  LDConfig_Alt.ldr
 
I have finally completed all of the custom edge colors for LDConfig_Alt.ldr: (URL) of the values of the colors have also been tweaked to (in my opinion) better match the color of the bricks. I would very much appreciate feedback on individual colors (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad)  
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Wow. You're totally confusing me with someone else. I've never been in the LSC, haven't been in the SteerCo for a couple of years, haven't had much at all to do with the LDraw header (other than a teensy bit to do with the licensing which, (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 4592 - Hinge Control Stick Base - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Hinge Control Stick Base - POV 0 Name: 4592.dat 0 Author: Steve Bliss [sbliss] 0 Unofficial Part 0 // using DAT code from LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // POV code by Orion (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) No, the IFPPOV-ELSEPOV-ENDPOV typically does not cover the whole file. The main idea behind *inlining* POV code is that many parts only have a small tricky/curvy section that would look better with POV code, so only e.g. 5 % of the file should (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) If we were both sitting on a bench somewhere and arguing from equal positions of power, then that statement would make sense. However, you are speaking from the position of The Mighty LSC, an entity apparently able to make decisions by fiat. (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I upload my POV enhanced LDraw dat files as replies to this post here in Lugnet: (URL) I will continue with that as long as the posts seem to be popular. If you have more Lego parts in the same spirit, they are welcome in that thread. About (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Bad simile, but ok then: I want pizza-pie and I respect those who want pizza XOR pie. Then let all three alternatives be available on the market. No Government Control over personal taste. I model in LDraw and render the final result in (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
--snip-- (...) --snip-- By that argument you dismiss the opposite perspective. You call 'facile' on any argument, no matter how strong, that disagrees with your own position. I have a very clear argument for my position: POVray is not LDraw and to (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Upload to where? If it's to a commonly-accessible LDraw-friendly site, then how do we avoid having to sift through 500 different versions of 3001.dat? And if it's to an individual's own personal site, then that's equivalent to hiding the file (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I don't know. All I know is that I export a POV file and it works well. That's pretty much how I like my software to work. (...) They could upload the files they've made. In fact, I have done so before. (...) It's more like offering people the (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Question my sanity if you must, but I'll have you know that I haven't used a 386 since 2008. I hadn't thought about the likelihood of a non-beta version being released, but as long as it supports the old syntax, then I don't care what kind of (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) LDView already has the ability to do this automatic replacement during POV export: Create a POV directory inside your LDraw directory Put p an parts directories in the POV directory Drop in POV files with the same filenames as the original (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, FTX)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Thanks, but no, I don't get irritated so no need for yet another parameter to silence certain warnings. I was just a little worried. And if a future version of L3P will no longer support inline code, I'll probably stick to 1.4 Beta - if not (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) See also my reply on Tore Eriksson message. It would be called 3001.pov and has the same information in it as the 'else' portion of the current dat files (although without the leading 0's, it would (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Tore Eriksson wrote: <snip> (...) alternatives. In that case I think Don is right, just ignore the warnings and keep doing what you like. I doubt Lars will stop supporting his own LDraw meta extensions altogether. (...) The thing (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I think I've got a solution for you and Dave. Stop worrying about the messages. ;) No, really. The current version of L3P still does what you want, right? And I think we can safely predict that the next non-beta version of L3P is highly (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) But does such an export include the POV-enhanced parts in proper matrix alignment, or does the user have to figure out how to orient the part to match the output file? If the latter, then it's equivalent to not supporting the POV-Ray elements (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)


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