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Re: L3P Warnings
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lugnet.cad.ray
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Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:20:01 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.ray, Timothy Gould wrote:
> They could upload the files they've made. In fact, I have done so before.
Upload to where? If it's to a commonly-accessible LDraw-friendly site, then how
do we avoid having to sift through 500 different versions of 3001.dat?
And if it's to an individual's own personal site, then that's equivalent to
hiding the file in a shoebox under the bed.
> You can choose POVray or LDraw. You don't need some hybrid.
So you're endorsing the lower-resolution image format for fractional domes and
irregular curves, then? What possible advantage could a lower-quality image
offer?
> > In both cases the underlying objection was that protocols
> > like these have the net effect of discouraging individual
> > experimentation with the format.
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> How so? You can experiment
> with the format all you like. It just won't make it to an official release.
Well, that's "how so." Even if a new prospective part-author can slog through a
few dozen lines of front-end gobbledygook, he has nothing to look forward to as
a reward for his efforts except automatic rejection. I don't see how you can
see that as anything other than discouraging.
People can have any color car they like, as long as it's black, right?
> > Clearly there are fundamental differences of opinion at play here. I accept
> > that the LSC has attained the power to make official decisions re: the
> > development of LDraw, but it's a mistake to dismiss or minimize dissenting
> > views.
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> How is disagreement dismission?
Are you kidding? In the previous thread, I tried several times to explain my
position, and you repeatedly dismissed it by saying "I just don't see it as a
problem" or something to that effect.
Your answers here are likewise dismissive, because you offer facile, stop-gap
solutions that don't really address the complaint.
It's not disagreement; it's dismissal, because you have staked your position and
have no intention of changing it, and instead of sincerely addressing concerns
or objections you simply reply "it's no big deal."
I can't wait to see what you decide to do with the newsletter.
> > I would have to say that although this may be a solution that works, it's not
> > the best solution, nor do I understand why it must be the only *accepted*
> > solution.
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> I have POVray altered parts in my personal LDraw library. They serve me quite
> well. I just don't feel the need to force them on people who will never use
> POVray.
By that logic, you should object equally strongly to the dozens of lines of
header information in each official LDraw part, since these lines are forced
upon people who will never use them. Heck, I'll absolutely never use Bionicle
elements in any LDraw modeling, but they're forced on me as part of the
(conspicuously few and very far between) library updates.
Inlined POV-Ray code is easily made invisible to anyone who doesn't want to use
it.
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| --snip-- (...) --snip-- By that argument you dismiss the opposite perspective. You call 'facile' on any argument, no matter how strong, that disagrees with your own position. I have a very clear argument for my position: POVray is not LDraw and to (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
| | | Re: L3P Warnings
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| (...) I upload my POV enhanced LDraw dat files as replies to this post here in Lugnet: (URL) I will continue with that as long as the posts seem to be popular. If you have more Lego parts in the same spirit, they are welcome in that thread. About (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
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| (...) I don't know. All I know is that I export a POV file and it works well. That's pretty much how I like my software to work. (...) They could upload the files they've made. In fact, I have done so before. (...) It's more like offering people the (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
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