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G'day folks, Note 1: I decided to compose this post because of the events of late concerning Jesse Alan Long. If you don't want to read something that will make your head hurt, skip this ;] Note 2: I am not arguing with any actions that have been or (...) (23 years ago, 7-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Glad to hear you'll still be around. Sorry if "transfer of responsibilities" was inaccurate, my misinterpretation of Suz's post. (...) Notice that my "regret is that we have yet to meet". There'll be a time and a place, even if I have to come (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Grrr... talk about mixed metaphors... I think I was making some sort of mix between self-confident and, umm, conceited? <sheepish grin> (Wait, let me check I got *that* word right... yep) Beats me. I don't know *what* I was thinking... going (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <Snipped Banned Topic> (...) I would not like to see JAL's privileges permanently revoked. His language does not seem to be a repetitive problem as with other people who regularly post. I have to admit that what was posted did violate the TOS (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hi, I think that people were using the term "ban" because it was in the thread title that I started. I wasn't sure what word to use in place of "privileges revocation" so I guess the term stuck. You are right, of course, and the term is very (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) JAL was not "banned" (that's a very loaded word) and as far as I'm aware, neither Suzanne nor I ever used the word "ban" or "banned" to him. What happened earlier is that the server has been instructed to reject messages sent with his known (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I have to say I agree with Eric on this one but beyond agreeing I will give my 2 cents. First of all I will admit some ignorance in terms of JAL's history because I stopped reading .space because of all the bickering. I will just say this, it (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think that was Eric's point, at least sort of. Lots of people slip up (Eric, please correct me if I misrepresented you but that's what I thought you were implying). People ought to be told that they slipped up and given a chance to correct (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Just a small FYI: (...) (URL)But given your talk above about it being "ethically lax" of you to "let it (...) Well, I don't. Witness what Stephen mentioned about his daughter. ((URL) I was outraged to hear this. I know 7 year olds who throw that (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, it won't be seamless -- there are a lot of coding and legal issues to be worked out -- but I don't expect anything to break. It's not really a "transfer of responsibilities" either, but offloading much of my workload. I'll still be here, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, I was hoping someone wouldn't waste their time building just that list. Seriously, where does it get us? You missed my instances of a certain 3-letter word...are you sure you don't want to make a LUGNET page listing all of the violations (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) He broke the Terms of Use Agreement. (URL) S. Lehman | LUGNET Admin <todd@lugnet.com> (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If I had never responded to a post with a "mee too", now would be the time to start. Well-said, Ed. And a huge bucket o' thanks to both Todd and Suz. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) by (...) ending (...) expect (...) will (...) I don't think enough could be said in praise of the efforts of Todd and Suz. LUGNET has been a huge success since its inception. They have run LUGNET with a professionalism that would be the dream (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) As it turns out, I've just received word that JAL *has* been banned. You can consider me to be "voluntarily banning" myself as well until this is changed, although I would consider it to be more of a "this is ridiculous and I'll have no part (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip list, including me> OK. (...) OK. I was completely unaware that the term I habitually use was considered offensive. Now that I've been made aware, I'm voluntarily banning myself. James (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, there isn't. Both have exactly the same effect- obsceneties in a Lugnet post, violating the ToS. Like I said, I understand that (and understand why) Jessie is unpopular, but banning him from Lugnet for something that other people have done (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just a note here - Frequently, mild obscenity is let slide by because whenever someone calls the abuser on it, it pretty much invariably turns into a huge fight. Slippery slope? Yup. Ethically lax of me (and others) to let it slide? You (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Many people have violated this particular ToS and not been banned. In the past, folks who have posted obscenities (and been called on it, frequently they aren't) have simply been made to understand that NO posting of profanities is allowed, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't think banning (forever) someone would be appropriate, for using a bad word in his post, not to insult someone, but just as an example, and also apologizing for this afterwards. If I remember correctly, the practice was warning and (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
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