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(...) We may have to agree to disagree on this but there is no difference in kind between "deleting on whim" (which I agree you should not do) and "enforcing the T&Cs" (which I think most of us strongly WANT you to do) from a legal sense. In my (...) (26 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) A Legalo man is a man who likes Lego but is concerned with Lego Legal matters. A Lego man isn't. His world is building Lego and unless Lego bring out minifig lawyers he has no interest in Lego Legal issues. Tim (26 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) What is a Legalo man? --Todd (26 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes: It can also open you up to legal issues. By the way what are the legal issues ? I printed out the new set Information when it briefly appeared on the Lego Site I could scan it and publish it in Lugnet. Is (...) (26 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Because, all things being equal, I think it's morally wrong to delete things, unless required to do so. It can also open you up to legal issues. (...) I believe that it's wiser and safer to require specific documentation and only to delete (...) (26 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I obtained clarification from LSI Legal today on the telephone and it was indeed also true legal request and represented LSI Legal's position. (...) No, it was a formal legal request. And the phone call confirmed this. --Todd (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I object to that statement -- it's wording. My opinion is that LUGNET does not exercise editorial control but will, when required, forcibly remove information from its server when it has been notified that the information must be removed on (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Why are you so afraid of nuking posts on your own system? Do you really have a legal obligation not to delete posts without a formal legal request? I would only call to confirm if you *disagree* with the request, and want to see if they (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) My primary suggestion is to start with the person who posted the information, rather than talking to Todd first. Don't send a threatening legal letter, but nicely say that Lego prefers to keep that information secret, and and ask the poster to (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't claim to know all or even many of the details, but I'll bet that no one person "blew it" and that it's the result of poor communication on a number of levels, most likely starting at the level between Target's lawyers and Target's (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, I will chime in here by saying that Meijer has a policy considering things of this nature to be company sensitive. I know that the Systems department have special rules in regards to situations like this. Scott S. -- (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't think that's a correct assumption. According to BradJ and LSI Legal, this was information (especially the pricing, which could change between now and the release) which was not intended for the public and should never have been made (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Why would you think TLC haven't already complain to Target also? (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I just received an email reply from Brad to my earlier message to him today. He reiterated that the original request was a formal legal request and noted that he could not give permission for me to post the contents of the message. He said (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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exactly... I think Todd did the right thing in responding to LEGO's wishes (formally or informally legal). However, LEGO should have directed this 'problem' at Target - NOT at LUGNET... Just my 2 cents.. Gene (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Actually, probably a few days. Just spoke with the LSI attorney who Brad consulted with before sending the request, and I got the distinct sense that this is a issue which LEGO wishes to address quickly and devote whatever time and resources (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <clip> (...) I can say with confidence (because I am in a business where we frequently get prerelease product info and training material that is covered by a non- disclosure agreement) that LEGO has this in place between themselves and Target. (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <sheepish> Um... OK... I didn't mean that the way it sounded. :-| </sheepish> -Duane (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Whoa whoa whoa! Watch what you say, please. For the record, I have *NEVER* censored a message here and never will. Any message I have ever removed has been under one of four cases: 1. Someone is unable to cancel their own message for whatever (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Probably not more than another 8 or 9 hours. I sent a polite request to Brad today asking for his permission to post a verbatim copy of his email, and cc'd the LSI attorney who he originally cc'd on his request, and also left a phone message (...) (26 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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