| | Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Todd Lehman
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| | (...) Depending on how you interpet the Terms of Use, there already is a ban on profanity here. (That's how I interpret it.) The difficult thing is that it's not really possible to define profanity in any way that people can agree on, especially in (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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| | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Jim Baker
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| | | | Also sprach Todd Lehman: : The difficult thing is that it's not really possible to define profanity in : any way that people can agree on, especially in purely illustrative contexts : such as Jim Baker's (a.k.a. "Beaker") delicate use of the F-word (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | Beaker wrote in message ... (...) While I agree with you, I think you're misapplying the principle. We *should* discourage the LCD approach, but with the intention of raising the standard not lowering it. Too much of the internet is already devoted (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Jim Baker
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| | | | | | | Also sprach Moz (Chris Moseley): : For instance, RTL is a venue that allows, even encourages, completely : free expression. If you can't post within reasonable bounds then perhaps : RTL is more your cup of tea than LugNet is? That's the thing, (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | | Beaker wrote in message ... (...) That's not really the issue - you keep saying "like" and "can live without" but at the same time you insistently argue against a ban. Would it mean that much to you to have this area declared a clean zone? The more (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Jim Baker
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| | | | | | | Also sprach Moz (Chris Moseley): : That's not really the issue - you keep saying "like" and "can live without" : but at the same time you insistently argue against a ban. Would it mean A ban is almost always a poor alternative to a sensible and (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | | Beaker wrote in message ... (...) How so? Even I could write a simple filter script to detect and reject a list of banned words for the news environments I've seen. And I don't see how having such a list is "intellectually limiting" - if anything (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) Keep in mind, If someone desires any kind of filtering or censoring, they'll have to do it themselves at the client end. For legal reasons, it's never going to happen at the server end, either manually or automatically. Doing so opens things (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) Sorry to accuse you of waving that libertarian flag a little too strongly, but if you look at it from a true libertarian perspective wouldn't you respect a unilateral ban HERE, on Lugnet, since this IS a private system owned by two private (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Jim Baker
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| | | | | Also sprach Mike Stanley: : Sorry to accuse you of waving that libertarian flag a little too : strongly, but if you look at it from a true libertarian perspective : wouldn't you respect a unilateral ban HERE, on Lugnet, since this IS a : private (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) I am not a conservative by any means, please! I wish that profanity be banned here in order to foster the ability to make choices. If the same standards apply here as on RTL, then there is no choice to be made. Let a hundred flowers bloom (1) (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | (...) Or first let the person who offends you know, privately. A polite request to desist isn't guaranteed, but can't hurt, and is more likely to work than public attempts at humiliation. (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Todd Lehman
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| | | | | (...) Aha, yes, I totally agree. I think that has even worked out positively in a few cases in the past on RTL. --Todd (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) As Jim pointed out, more clarification is needed here -- but this week isn't the best time so I'll be short for now and add more later... Practically speaking, I don't believe it's possible to define what profanity is, or that it's actually (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) Not rerally commenting on the thread (I'll keep out of this one for now), But why don't you just say the words? Do you think F*ck, or F---, are any less offensive than fuck, the entire word? Juts something I've noticed on many internet fora. I (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | Re: Profanity (was Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?) Terry Keller
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| | | | (...) So we would also need a .town-pillory group and perhaps even town-guillotine and/or .town-gallows. Hey, I'm warming to this idea..... :-) -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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