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Subject: 
Re: Sluggish nntp performance
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: 
jsproat@io.STOPSPAMcom
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Todd Lehman wrote:
> As far as I can tell, it's some sort of ISP networking traffic thing...?
> Pinging www.lugnet.com reports "Request timed out" at the sames times that
> pinging www.pair.com reports the same, while pinging other sites like
> www.yahoo.com and www.netscape.com report normal replies.  What do you see
> when you ping?

traceroute was taken during ho-hum performance; I'll take another one during
really flaky performance.

<PING>
c:\pub>ping lugnet.com

Pinging lugnet.com [209.68.63.236] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=244
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=244
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=244
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
</PING>

And a traceroute.  NOTE:  Novell router addresses kifed by paraoid policy of
Novell IS&T.

<TRACEROUTE>
c:\pub>tracert lugnet.com

Tracing route to lugnet.com [209.68.63.236]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  #############.###.novell.com [137.65.###.###]
  2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  #############.###.novell.com [137.65.###.###]
  3   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  #############.###.novell.com [137.65.###.###]
  4   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  #############.###.novell.com [137.65.###.###]
  5   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  Serial5-1-1.GW1.SLT1.ALTER.NET
[157.130.162.77]
  6   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  137.39.167.101
  7   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  195.ATM2-0.TR1.SLT3.ALTER.NET [146.188.224.2]
  8    41 ms    50 ms    50 ms  113.ATM6-0.TR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.137.209]
  9    40 ms    50 ms    50 ms  199.ATM7-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.161.133]
10    50 ms    70 ms    70 ms  193.ATM8-0-0.GW1.PIT1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.162.81]
11    50 ms    61 ms    60 ms  pairnetworks-gw.customer.ALTER.NET
[157.130.32.178]
12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
13    60 ms    60 ms    61 ms  lugnet.com [209.68.63.236]

Trace complete.
</TRACEROUTE>

That router #12 always times out.  I'm sure it just means that it's set up to
not respond to ping from outside the firewall...

LUGNET.COM responds to ping fairly quickly, as always.

> p.s.  HTTP, unlike NNTP, is stateless, so it's a lot easier for NNTP
> connections to drop and cause headaches than HTTP.  Your web browser might
> also have higher TCP/IP timeouts or latency tolerances than your newsreader.

Hmmm...  I haven't thought of this.  Monday when I'm at work again, I'll put a
packet sniffer on it and see if I'm getting a lot of timeouts...

Cheers,
- jsproat

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Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Sluggish nntp performance
 
(...) traceroute taken during bad performance showed about the same times. <TRACEROUTE> c:\pub>tracert lugnet.com Tracing route to lugnet.com [209.68.63.236] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms ###...###.###.novell.com [137.65.###.###] (...) (27 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: Sluggish nntp performance
 
Time to connect is now up to 38 seconds. Doesn't seem to ever be better or worse, consistently 30+ seconds. Tracert looks pretty good, 6 alter.net routers to pairnetworks and they pass through very quick. Losing about 10% of the packets pinging (...) (27 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: Sluggish nntp performance
 
(...) Something really net.weird is going on today, but I don't see special notices at Pair yet: (URL) I'm seeing when I look inward from the outside is lots and lots of packet drops and broken connections. Yesterday was bad too, but today is really (...) (27 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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