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Re: Please help keep LUGNET clean
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lugnet.admin.general
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Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:25:10 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> writes:
> As I said in person... find some thing that would be relatively easy to
> let a committee decide (NOT The ID number thing, boy what a can of worms
> that was) and start it... it doesn't have to be an important thing. But
> doing it relatively soon, even with manual procedures, will build the
> experience(from your perspective) expertise (from the committee's
> perspective) and buy in (from the community perspective) necessary to
> make bigger harder decisions committee-solvable later on.
Awright, I'd be game to give something like that a try -- for gray-area
transgressions as well as for problematic non-transgressions.
Example scenarios of problematic non-transgressions:
* Someone scams thousands of dollars out of a dozen or more people. This
isn't exactly a transgression of the LUGNET Terms of Use, but IMO is perfect
justification for giving someone the boot on other moral grounds. But I'd
want that decided by some community judicial process: maybe the scam artist
was a scum-head and who never should have shown his/her face in the first
place; or maybe it turns out that the scam was a one-time crime by a
12-year-old playing a prank, with all the money eventually returned; or
maybe the scam was the result of a sick but brilliant builder who needs
professional help. In the first case, complete and permanent banishment is
probably in order. In the second case, maybe some forgiveness is in order
after an FTF or phone conversation with the parents. In the third case,
perhaps banishment from the .market groups is in order, but not from .build
and other creative groups.
* Someone bugs the living daylights out of key people in a small software
focus group by continually (for months on end) making low-quality, zero-
value-adding contributions and continually ignoring pleas for voluntary
improvement, which actually result in overall setbacks rather than progress.
There needs to be a way that people can band together and force someone
either to change their ways or leave the group. I believe that the ability
for a focus group to selectively force someone out (who doesn't belong) is a
Good Thing and is necessary for a healthy large-scale community.
* Someone claims to have set up an online storefront and posts their
for-sale list several times weekly, filled with typos, price errors, and
columns that don't line up. IOW, the listings are worthless, and on top of
that, the person who is posting the listings is apparently not only a
complete fool, but completely annoys *everyone*. Appeals and pleas from
people to clean up or cut down on the listings go ignored.
* Someone brash continually picks fights or arguments or debates with other
people for no apparent reason, seemingly just to get a rise out of it, and
angers everyone in his path while contributing nothing in return. It gets
so bad, in fact, that several people leave the group, never to return,
because things have gotten so hostile.
--Todd
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| (...) As I said in person... find some thing that would be relatively easy to let a committee decide (NOT The ID number thing, boy what a can of worms that was) and start it... it doesn't have to be an important thing. But doing it relatively soon, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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