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Re: Localities groups for New York City
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lugnet.admin.general
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Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:18:43 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, edboxer@aol.com (Ed Jones) writes:
> > Say, does Yonkers consider itself part of NYC? :) But more importantly,
> > if someone posts about a good LEGO sale somewhere in Kings, wouldn't
> > someone from Yonkers really "jump on it" just as much as someone in the
> > Bronx?
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> Yonkers doesn't really consider itself part of NYC. And they'd never
> travel to Brooklyn to buy Lego :') The bridge tolls alone would eat
> up the savings
OK then, so you're reassuring me that no one is going to scream bloody
murder if the Yonkers group were moved out of the NYC hierarchy and into the
NY State hierarchy? :)
That is, renaming it from lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.yon -> lugnet.loc.us.ny.yon
Fortunately, the Yonkers group has never been posted to, so renaming it
isn't much of a mess.
An alternative question, then -- should there even *be* a group for Yonkers?
Seems *so* odd to me to give an itty bitty city its own group parallel to a
big gihugic city only 15 miles away. Maybe Yonkers folks would be perfectly
happy posting to the regular NYC group.
> > > I'm not convinced about Long Island. Most Long Islanders have never
> > > set foot in Manhattan.
> >
> > So if a new group were created for Long Island (there currently isn't
> > one) it might not probably belong under the lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny
> > hierarchy, but instead as lugnet.loc.us.ny.li or something?
> >
> > Oh, wait. There is a group for Suffolk. Is it correct that people would
> > see Suffolk and think Long Island?
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> You have groups for Suffolk and Nassau counties - they could be
> lugnet.loc.us.ny.li.
Ah yes, there are two groups there for LI. See?--you're seeing the
principle that I mentioned earlier -- I was wicked thorough last summer and
noticed almost every detail on the maps, but now trying to go over it later,
it's all blur because I'm not in the mindset. :)
So you're saying that the lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.suf & lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.nas
groups could just as well be combined into a single group
lugnet.loc.us.ny.li?
I read my map wrong last summer -- I thought Suffolk & Nassau (being in the
same typeface and weight) were part of NYC. :-(
The Nassau group is dead-empty and the Suffolk group only has a couple
posts, so these would be easy to rename too.
> [...]
> > > But I would still suggest two purely technical nitpicks. 1. Either
> > > use all county names or all borough names for the 5 boroughs of NYC.
> >
> > Do you know where I can find/get a list of the county names and the
> > borough names?
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> Manhattan - New York County
> The Bronx - Bronx County (note the official name is "The Bronx")
OK, official name noted. In spoken conversation, does anyone ever say just
"Bronx" or is it *always* "The Bronx" everywhere? (Adding "The" on the
front will cause it to alphabetize in the T's with the current
alphabetization algorithm.)
> Queens - Queens County
> Brooklyn - Kings County
> Staten Island - Richmond County
Coolness, thanks for the list. Here's how I updated the names in the
datafiles then...
Newsgroup name Description
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lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny Greater New York City, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.brx The Bronx, Bronx County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.kin Kings, Kings County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.man Manhattan, New York County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.nas Nassau, Long Island, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.que Queens, Queens County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.sta Staten Island, Richmond County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.suf Suffolk, Long Island, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.yon Yonkers, New York, U.S.A.
...and to summarize, then, I gather from the rest of the discussion that you
are advocating a slight reorganization like so--?
Newsgroup name Description
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lugnet.loc.us.ny.li Long Island, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny Greater New York City, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.brx The Bronx, Bronx County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.kin Kings, Kings County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.man Manhattan, New York County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.que Queens, Queens County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.ny.sta Staten Island, Richmond County, New York, U.S.A.
lugnet.loc.us.ny.yon Yonkers, New York, U.S.A.
(Nassau and Suffolk -- or cities within them, for that matter -- could
always go someday as subcategories of .us.ny.li if the need arises.)
> > > 2. Manhattan is never called Manhattan Island.
> > Oops -- I'll fix that.
> Thanks for your repsonse!
You're welcome! But from my point of view, it is I who should be thanking
you!
--Todd
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| (...) Should be fine. I'll send you a $1 for each complaint :') (...) Good question. Maybe a group for SE NY State would be better (...) They could, but I don't think its necessary. I'd jsut leave them as lugnet.loc.us.ny.suf and (...) (26 years ago, 28-Mar-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) Yonkers doesn't really consider itself part of NYC. And they'd never travel to Brooklyn to buy Lego :') The bridge tolls alone would eat up the savings (...) Correctamundo!! (...) Exactly (...) You have groups for Suffolk and Nassau counties - (...) (26 years ago, 27-Mar-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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