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  Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) For the love of heaven, must we start a new thread as to define what a fact is? How about diatribe? Were there not enough facts given at these sites? The answers to your questions are often not right in front of you. Seek well and learn well. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) For the sake of staying within what I consider dubious givens, I would say that it was impossible for you to acquire ownership of sentient (the real meaning, not your vernacular one) beings (cows) without excercising some kind of 'might makes (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) I think there's a real difference between burning down a supposedly empty building (the reports I've read weren't "empty" buildings, and destroyed not just the potentially abusive research, but also research which did not use animals) and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) "Meat related agricultural..." Seems a little vague to me, but I think I understand what you are getting at from the rest of the thread. You'll also have to bear with me since I am at work and am unwilling to go to either site while at work. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
(...) Well I still think it is. I view moralising as rather sanctimonious. To say an animal is without them is negative - in my opinion. (...) Amoral is negative. (...) Evaluate comes to mind (...) Read Larry's message again. Assess the tone. What (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Ownership (was: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?))
 
(...) I've been having a crisis of faith over the past several months and tried to bring it up unsuccessfully once before, but this ties into it. To get to the point, I'm having trouble justifying ownership. The entire notion of ownership actually. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Waco (time for a Subject change already)
 
(...) Yes, you've shown yourself to be the polar opposite of someone else in this forum, and I can't understand why you're not debating HIM. To you, it's "all hail the gubmint, which can do no wrong" or "if it's a law, it must be right". The both of (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: How much is enough?
 
(...) I'm curious-- I haven't seen this discussion taking place at all with respect to the HP sets... Can anyone point me to a thread? If there's not a thread going, then can I start one here? Where were these pictures sourced from? How 'bout the (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
 

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  Re: Libertarian Propaganda
 
This will be my last long post in this debate. If anyone has points to debate further with me, please break them down into smaller bite size chunks, where I can reply quickly. I have devoted far too much time to these posts, and it is starting to (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Libertarian Propaganda
 
Here we go again. Sorry for the length, but some folks need to have facts pounded in nice and tight before they begin to comprehend. (...) Then, don't pretend to know my mind. Maybe I need to put an (s) after each statement meant to be sarcastic? (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
 
(...) Yes, the racism was at least party government sponsored. But I think it is a mistake to blame some government bogeyman rather than admitting that it was a reflection of the electorate. And yes, there was pressure put on businesses and (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Student Essay Howlers
 
Hi, everyone. I mentioned in the "doh" thread that I would probably regale you with the "howlers"--the intentionally or unintentionally funny gaffes I find on student papers. Fortunately, we do all of our work in essay or paper form (no multiple (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 

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  Re: Suddenly Chris makes it personal (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
(...) to (...) time. (...) If he had been so severe that I thought the other children needed their rights protected, I would have done so. In the instance that I'm thinking of, that wasn't the case. He wasn't bein egregiously abusive, he just wasn't (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: what is the use of a caboose?
 
Now this is long and maybe too off-topic but I thought you trainheads might be interested in transport issues, let me know if I shouldn't post this sort of thing: (...) Lawrence wrote: (...) The life of a battery used in a bus application, which is (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 

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  Re: Suddenly Chris makes it personal (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
(...) (And (...) I can see what you're saying, but that wasn't my intent. I would be satisfied to discuss the results of her (or your) attempt to codify (even with the understanding that the edges are hazy) what "too much," "too little," and (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Child rearing (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
(...) Why is there a limit? What is it? What is it based on? You go on to say some pretty commonly accepted stuff, but I'm not infering what this limit is. (And simply by being popular, doesn't make it right.) (...) It sounds like you think I'm (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  I go the low-down Re: Atlanta, GA area AFOLs:
 
I found it! Its hidden down the hill. For those that are interested and would like to send me back to get something for them, or anyone else in the Atlanta area how wants to help LEGO Fans find much needed sets. Here's what I found... LEGO (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-01, to lugnet.market.shopping)
 

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  Re: Is this sexism?
 
Speaking strictly in a biological sense, all living beings have the natural right of reproduction. The presence of sex organs and sex hormones is proof enough that organisms are here to thrive and repopulate. Reproduction is a natural, hard-wired (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Apology for Jesse Long
 
(...) Having rules to live with has nothing to do with being a dictatorship. (...) In the borders of your uncle's country, I'm sure you must obey some rules , too. And In the boundaries of Lugnet, which is a private property literally, you must (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
 

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  Re: Is this sexism?
 
(...) Yes, I know what you mean but I am forced to maintain that in the basic biological sense all living beings have the natural right of reproduction, whether they are fit as a fiddle or severely genetically abnormal or diseased. BUT here's the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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