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Thanks to Ben Beneke I learned these two things at BrickFest PDX:
1) A German counter-part to the fabled Santa Fe style warbonnett locomotive is
the German DB v200 or v220(?).
2) 7-wide is beautiful ;-)
Here’s my first go at the German DB v200/v220 pulling a simplistic 6-wide consist of “Lorelei” cars (as
described from a Maerklin catalog).
Deep links for the moment:
pic one
pic two
The DB v200 loc is 7-wide. Has a simple engine inside. Not too many details.
The Speisewagon is simply detailed with a kitchenette and the 1st class car has
two compartment sitting rooms with one private single-chair reading room. The
2nd class car is just open seating--no details here.
Thanks for checking this early version out.
later,
James Mathis
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> Here's my first go at the <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74504
> German DB v200/v220 pulling a simplistic 6-wide consist of "Lorelei" cars> (as
> described from a Maerklin catalog).
>
> <<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/jamathis/Trains/Passenger/DBv200/v1/Rendering/db_v200_v1_lorelei_p2.png>>
Oooooh. I have this actual Marklin train from when I was
a kid.
Nice.
Ralph
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
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Thanks to Ben Beneke I learned these two things at BrickFest PDX:
1) A German counter-part to the fabled Santa Fe style warbonnett locomotive
is the German DB v200 or v220(?).
2) 7-wide is beautiful ;-)
Here’s my first go at the
German DB v200/v220
pulling a simplistic 6-wide consist of “Lorelei” cars (as described from a
Maerklin catalog).
Deep links for the moment:
pic one
pic two
The DB v200 loc is 7-wide. Has a simple engine inside. Not too many
details.
The Speisewagon is simply detailed with a kitchenette and the 1st class car
has two compartment sitting rooms with one private single-chair reading room.
The 2nd class car is just open seating--no details here.
Thanks for checking this early version out.
later,
James Mathis
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Hello, James .
Another great train, you have built !
There are Australian versions too.
Simalar to Santa Fe Super Cheif
http://www.srhc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98
If this link does not work please try :-
www.srhc.org.au ,then go to Photo’s , then B74 50th Anniversary Tour
This train came after the S Class Steam Train .
The Blue steam train that I showed at BrickFest PDX. THE BIG BLUE !
I have also just built up a few Ideas that I had for 7 wide working train
lights. I will show soon ,at the MUGS meeting on Sunday.For when I build a DB
103.(7740)
How many Aussie trains haved you built ?
Thanks, Teunis M>ltc
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I should have put a
link to
pics of the real-life DB v200.
And, here is a rendering of the v200 build which uses four more of the
hard-to-find rare 6-wide split windscreen in black. To find 6 of those black
windscreens...ugh.
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There are Australian versions too.
Simalar to Santa Fe Super Cheif
http://www.srhc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98
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Nice.
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I have also just built up a few Ideas that I had for 7 wide working train
lights. I will show soon ,at the MUGS meeting on Sunday.For when I build a
DB 103.(7740)
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Oooh, that will be nice to see.
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How many Aussie trains haved you built ?
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Uhm, zero. Next question... ;-)
later,
James Mathis
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Here’s my first go at the
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74504 German DB v200/v220
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I like this MOC, James, especially your use of the half rounds on the nose and
the tapering roof. Not that I have any ax to grind, but I was thinking, after
having viewed the prototype, that this loco might be a nice 8wide project.
You could shroud the wheels and the roof taper would work nicely into the 6 wide
windshield. The Dark Side never rests:-)
JOHN
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote:
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I like this MOC, James, especially your use of the half rounds on the nose
and the tapering roof. Not that I have any ax to grind, but I was thinking,
after having viewed the prototype, that this loco might be a nice 8wide
project. You could shroud the wheels and the roof taper would work nicely
into the 6 wide windshield. The Dark Side never rests:-)
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I regress...Here’s a try at a
6-wide version of the DB v200.
This 6-wide version has working headlights...at the sacrifice of full-wrap
1/4-curves on the side of the nose. Well, the light must pass through several
layers of trans-clear plates, so I’m not sure just how bright those lights would
be...
The windscreen wrap is a bit ugly in my opinion, but I thought the exercise in
6-wide would be interesting. How about this piece count:
7-wide DB v200 build = 743 pieces
6-wide DB v200 build = 540 pieces
And, full 6-wide DB v200
folder with some break-out images after moderation.
later,
James Mathis
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
(shakes head) Doood.
:-)
JOHN
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
> Thanks to Ben Beneke I learned these two things at BrickFest PDX:
Hello James,
thanks for your kind feedback concerning the "Schleimers'" portland trip!
> 1) A German counter-part to the fabled Santa Fe style warbonnett locomotive
> is the German DB v200 or v220(?).
The naming has been updated at some time. V200 abd BR220 are the same engines as
far as I know.
> 2) 7-wide is beautiful ;-)
Thanks! Since you and others have jumped on the 7wide train as well (and since
some visitors must have reported about my presentation at BrickFest, which
leaded to some request by third parties for my presentation) I have now uploaded
that to brickshelf (of course as jpg-slideshow with quite strong
jpep-compression for quick access).
Follow this link and change numbering from 01 to 35:
www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/presentations/BrickFestPDX2004/slides_pdx_01.jpg
or after moderation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74539
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/jamathis/Trains/Passenger/DBv200/v1/Rendering/db_v200_v1_lorelei_p0.png
> pic one>
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> <http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/jamathis/Trains/Passenger/DBv200/v1/Rendering/db_v200_v1_lorelei_p1.png
> pic two>
Very nice done; especially the 2nd version with the 6 times windscreen!
The V200 that I showed at BrickFest has been a design of Marmaris (Volker
Draschka) and he used completely different building techniques. Quite
interesting to compare your different styles of building.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=550972
> Thanks for checking this early version out.
>
> later,
I am looking forward to see your final version!
Kind Regards,
Ben
P.s.: @John Neal (kudos to your roses!!): there is at least one V200 out there:
We saw that one in Frechen at our FGLTC-end-of-year-show:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=613177
The builder of that engine is never online and joined us in Frechen for the
first time.
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
> The naming has been updated at some time. V200 abd BR220 are the same engines as
> far as I know.
Thanks for that information.
> The V200 that I showed at BrickFest has been a design of Marmaris (Volker
> Draschka) and he used completely different building techniques. Quite
> interesting to compare your different styles of building.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=550972
That is very nice. So many methods toward the solution when aiming at the same
prototype.
> I am looking forward to see your final version!
Well, this might be the final version. I'm not too sure I am interested to
continue with it. So, I have uploaded instructions for it. Stickers with "DB"
would be nice.
> P.s.: @John Neal (kudos to your roses!!): there is at least one V200 out there:
> We saw that one in Frechen at our FGLTC-end-of-year-show:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=613177
>
> The builder of that engine is never online and joined us in Frechen for the
> first time.
Very nice. Are there two of those 8-wide v200's? The second one just sneaking
into the right edge of the pic?
later,
James Mathis
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James Mathis wrote:
> > P.s.: @John Neal (kudos to your roses!!): there is at least one V200 out
> > there: We saw that one in Frechen at our FGLTC-end-of-year-show:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=613177
> >
> > The builder of that engine is never online and joined us in Frechen for
> > the first time.
>
> Very nice. Are there two of those 8-wide v200's? The second one just
> sneaking into the right edge of the pic?
Yes, he brought along 2 versions of the engine (they were built in 4 batches
by various companies, hence the small differences)
I made loads of pics from them since I hope to copy one of those at a later
time... http://www.vanree.net/fotoalbum/javanree/lego/1000steine_frechen/
--
Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
Brick Piles | Santa Fe B-unit
GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc
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Here are building step
instructions for this version of a German DB v200 diesel locomotive. (after
moderation)
later,
James Mathis
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
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Nice model!
Did you use any unofficial parts in the MPD? I just got a new copy of the latest
LDraw release but I'm still getting some warnings at load. Could just be me of
course.
For instance:
10024.dat, (not on parts tracker that I could see.. maybe it's the windshield?
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=8484 yes it is... got it from this model
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/models/?n=771 is there a better version?)
3070bp01.dat (in parts tracker already)
41765.dat and 41764.dat (both in parts tracker, require same subfile too)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
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> (all snipped away)
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> Nice model!
>
> Did you use any unofficial parts in the MPD? I just got a new copy of the latest
> LDraw release but I'm still getting some warnings at load. Could just be me of
> course.
Thanks for calling my attention to the unofficial parts I used. My bad form to
not include the .dat files for those unofficial parts. I all too easily forget
that they're not in the official parts library for those who download the .mpd.
Sorry about that everyone.
> For instance:
>
> 10024.dat, (not on parts tracker that I could see.. maybe it's the windshield?
> http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=8484 yes it is... got it from this model
> http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/models/?n=771 is there a better version?)
> 3070bp01.dat (in parts tracker already)
> 41765.dat and 41764.dat (both in parts tracker, require same subfile too)
I'm away from the file right now. I'm afraid I don't recall what parts are
41765 and 41764...Oh,maybe those are the complex 6x2 inverse slopes?
Again, sorry.
later,
James Mathis
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
> >
> > (all snipped away)
> >
> > Nice model!
> >
> > Did you use any unofficial parts in the MPD? I just got a new copy of the latest
> > LDraw release but I'm still getting some warnings at load. Could just be me of
> > course.
>
> Thanks for calling my attention to the unofficial parts I used. My bad form to
> not include the .dat files for those unofficial parts. I all too easily forget
> that they're not in the official parts library for those who download the .mpd.
> Sorry about that everyone.
Ah don't worry about it... it's not hard to find them if they're in Parts
Tracker! (1) the only one that really took any digging was the 10024 windshield
part because I had to dig it out of the posted model.
> > For instance:
> >
> > 10024.dat, (not on parts tracker that I could see.. maybe it's the windshield?
> > http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=8484 yes it is... got it from this model
> > http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/models/?n=771 is there a better version?)
> > 3070bp01.dat (in parts tracker already)
> > 41765.dat and 41764.dat (both in parts tracker, require same subfile too)
>
> I'm away from the file right now. I'm afraid I don't recall what parts are
> 41765 and 41764...Oh,maybe those are the complex 6x2 inverse slopes?
Indeed they are. You can get copies by going to the parts tracker:
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/41764.dat
then click on download... save it in your parts directory
do it again for the other parts you need: 3070bp01.dat and 41765.dat
Finally you will need the common subfile
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/s/41765s01.dat
click download and save it in your parts/s directory
and you're good to go.
BTW I see that you subsequently posted your instructions rendering... love the
shading and overall rendering there. Meanwhile, I got a chance to dig into the
model itself and scope out some of the design tricks... LOVE the large amount of
1/2 stud cleverness in it as well as good old fashioned SNOTwork. Turned noses
are a particular favorite trick of mine, I've been using them since MTW-3001
I'm gonna have to build one of these for myself I guess. My only issue is where
to get the big doors, I may have to fudge that part a bit with something else.
If I do it in cream/tan or white bottom and red top (not completely prototypical
but should look sharp) I can fudge the windshields and use 10020 ones instead...
red would then work.
1 - People should get good at digging in Parts Tracker, it's a valuable skill to
have.
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
>
> (all snipped away)
>
> Nice model!
>
> Did you use any unofficial parts in the MPD? I just got a new copy of the latest
> LDraw release but I'm still getting some warnings at load. Could just be me of
> course.
>
> For instance:
>
> 10024.dat, (not on parts tracker that I could see.. maybe it's the >windshield?
Yeah, and I just realized that I've got an interference problem where this
windscreen is to attach to the top of the nose of the v200. I didn't notice
that the underside of the windscreen is not modeled true to the small stud
placement on the underside of the windscreen. (not complaining, here, much
thanks to Thomas Burger for modeling that 10024.dat part!) The LDraw windscreen
doesn't have any binding posts(?) on its underside, while the real part does.
In the v200 model, I set a stud on-center which will interfer with placing the
windscreen. Back to rendering...
later,
James Mathis
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