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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Gianluca Morelli wrote:
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This is a bad new.
You instantly loose most of your non-american readers,
as we aren’t going to pay an intercontinental shipping for our issues.
Thanks for your great previous work,
Gianluca
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Wow. I’m sorry that you feel this way. I have done the best I can to make things
work out for as many people as possible. There are other options that I am
looking at to provide issues to everyone, and I am aware of the audiences
overseas. But I had to make some hard decisions. This is one of them but it at
least allows the option of international subscriptions. I’m sorry that I
couldn’t do better at this time.
Joe
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
> In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Gianluca Morelli wrote:
> > This is a bad new. ¬¬You instantly loose most of your non-american readers,
> > as we aren't going to pay an intercontinental shipping for our issues.
> >
> > Thanks for your great previous work,¬
> > Gianluca
>
> Wow. I'm sorry that you feel this way. I have done the best I can to make
> things work out for as many people as possible. There are other options that
> I am looking at to provide issues to everyone, and I am aware of the
> audiences overseas. But I had to make some hard decisions. This is one of
> them but it at least allows the option of international subscriptions. I'm
> sorry that I couldn't do better at this time.
>
> Joe
Hi Joe, I know that when you switch from fan-made stuff to "serious" stuff you
got to make hard choices (especially for money troubles), but not having a
distribution in Europe is a major issue.
It's not pleasant to pay 2/3 times what americans pay 1 and having even it with
a (say) 10 days delay.
What about keeping up the pdf version, even not for free? For example, paying $5
to 10 for the pdf version would be fair...
...or at least tell us where to get it for free on emule... :-PPPPPPPPPPPP
Gianluca
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Gianluca Morelli wrote:
> What about keeping up the pdf version, even not for free? For example, paying $5
> to 10 for the pdf version would be fair...
I reread the specifics for the first print issue:
http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=609
And it certainly seems to indicate that the .pdf version will still be available
for $3.95. Which is even cheaper that what you thought would be fair. :)
At least, that's the way I'm reading it - that the new issues, going forward,
will all still be available as digital downloads. Perhaps Joe can clarify when
he gets a minute.
All the best,
Allan B.
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Allan Bedford wrote:
> I reread the specifics for the first print issue:
>
> http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=609
>
> And it certainly seems to indicate that the .pdf version will still
> be available for $3.95. Which is even cheaper that what you thought
> would be fair. :)
That looks good, but for the moment, twomorrows don't even process orders
from my part of the world. It's still plenty of time left until February
2008, so things might change.
What's wrong with using lulu.com? They have printing works on this side of
the pond, so shipping would probably be cheaper (but what would the magazine
cost?).
--
Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
Gallery: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Anders Isaksson wrote:
> Allan Bedford wrote:
>
> > I reread the specifics for the first print issue:
> >
> > http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=609
> >
> > And it certainly seems to indicate that the .pdf version will still
> > be available for $3.95. Which is even cheaper that what you thought
> > would be fair. :)
>
> That looks good, but for the moment, twomorrows don't even process orders
> from my part of the world. It's still plenty of time left until February
> 2008, so things might change.
That is a bug that the webmaster is looking into - this has happened with the
free download, although the error message was false.
> What's wrong with using lulu.com? They have printing works on this side of
> the pond, so shipping would probably be cheaper (but what would the magazine
> cost?).
Try and print a magazine one at a time, and you'll see pretty clearly.
Joe
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Joe Meno wrote:
> In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Anders Isaksson wrote:
> >
> > That looks good, but for the moment, twomorrows don't even process
> > orders from my part of the world.
>
> That is a bug that the webmaster is looking into - this has happened
> with the free download, although the error message was false.
Sounds even better! So the plan is to be able to sell 'world wide' already
at the start in February?
(My interest will only be in the electronic PDF version)
--
Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
Gallery: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Anders Isaksson wrote:
> Joe Meno wrote:
> > In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Anders Isaksson wrote:
> > >
> > > That looks good, but for the moment, twomorrows don't even process
> > > orders from my part of the world.
> >
> > That is a bug that the webmaster is looking into - this has happened
> > with the free download, although the error message was false.
>
> Sounds even better! So the plan is to be able to sell 'world wide' already
> at the start in February?
> (My interest will only be in the electronic PDF version)
That is the plan. To make this happen takes months to implement - not in
printing, but in coordination. BrickJournal already has one distributor with
Diamond Comics, and is waiting for decisions on others. These will be announced
as I recieve confirmations.
Electronic versions will be available worldwide to coincide. As mentioned in the
website, those subscribing will get the digital version free.
Joe
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> > Wow. I'm sorry that you feel this way. I have done the best I can to make
> > things work out for as many people as possible. There are other options that
> > I am looking at to provide issues to everyone, and I am aware of the
> > audiences overseas. But I had to make some hard decisions. This is one of
> > them but it at least allows the option of international subscriptions. I'm
> > sorry that I couldn't do better at this time.
> >
> > Joe
>
> Hi Joe, I know that when you switch from fan-made stuff to "serious" stuff you
> got to make hard choices (especially for money troubles), but not having a
> distribution in Europe is a major issue.
This is not the only problem. Think a second about this: how many Europeans
would still write articles for a US Magazine which is hard/expensive to get in
Europe? Brickjournal will loose not just readers but also writers...
Cheers,
Luca
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> This is not the only problem. Think a second about this: how many Europeans
> would still write articles for a US Magazine which is hard/expensive to get in
> Europe? Brickjournal will loose not just readers but also writers...
I don't understand what you are saying.
It is neither hard nor expensive to pay $3.95 (that is what, 2.78 Euros at
today's rate?) to get the pdf version. That is what you have been getting all
along. He had to start charging something for the magazine and it is a fair
price for an online publication.
As for a print version, well sure it is expensive but specialty magazines are
always expensive. I work in a library and we have lots of specialty magazines
that cost far more than Brick Journal.
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Ted Godwin wrote:
> In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > This is not the only problem. Think a second about this: how many Europeans
> > would still write articles for a US Magazine which is hard/expensive to get in
> > Europe? Brickjournal will loose not just readers but also writers...
>
> I don't understand what you are saying.
>
> It is neither hard nor expensive to pay $3.95 (that is what, 2.78 Euros at
> today's rate?) to get the pdf version. That is what you have been getting all
> along. He had to start charging something for the magazine and it is a fair
> price for an online publication.
The PDF is not expensive, it is expensive to get the printed issue (ok specialty
magazines are expensive, I know) but the worst thing is that Europeans AFOL
cannot buy at all the printed BJ because it is sold only within US.
Luca
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Luca Giannitti wrote:
>
> The PDF is not expensive, it is expensive to get the printed issue (ok specialty
> magazines are expensive, I know) but the worst thing is that Europeans AFOL
> cannot buy at all the printed BJ because it is sold only within US.
>
> Luca
That may not true. I am working on that, however, I have no definites. I won't
announce until then.
Joe
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Gianluca Morelli wrote:
(chop)
>
> Hi Joe, I know that when you switch from fan-made stuff to "serious" stuff you
> got to make hard choices (especially for money troubles), but not having a
> distribution in Europe is a major issue.
>
> It's not pleasant to pay 2/3 times what americans pay 1 and having even it with
> a (say) 10 days delay.
>
> What about keeping up the pdf version, even not for free? For example, paying $5
> to 10 for the pdf version would be fair...
>
> ...or at least tell us where to get it for free on emule... :-PPPPPPPPPPPP
>
> Gianluca
Gianluca,
The issues will be sold online as a PDF.
I understand your frustration, and believe me, I am trying to find a solution. I
can't offer free PDFs from now on, though.
Joe
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Joe Meno wrote:
> The issues will be sold online as a PDF.
>
> I understand your frustration, and believe me, I am trying to find a
> solution. I can't offer free PDFs from now on, though.
Have you checked with lulu.com? They do printing in Europe when delivering
to Europe, so the shipping charges might be lower. OTOH, I don't know what
that would mean for the prize of the magazine, and your margins...
--
Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
Gallery: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Anders Isaksson wrote:
> Joe Meno wrote:
>
> > The issues will be sold online as a PDF.
> >
> > I understand your frustration, and believe me, I am trying to find a
> > solution. I can't offer free PDFs from now on, though.
>
> Have you checked with lulu.com? They do printing in Europe when delivering
> to Europe, so the shipping charges might be lower. OTOH, I don't know what
> that would mean for the prize of the magazine, and your margins...
I have - lulu copies have been available for some time (although those will have
to be pulled off too). You can too. Prices on demand are very high.
Like I said, I have looked at as many options as I can.
Joe
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Joe Meno wrote:
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In lugnet.publish.brickjournal, Gianluca Morelli wrote:
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This is a bad new.
You instantly loose most of your non-american readers,
as we aren’t going to pay an intercontinental shipping for our issues.
Thanks for your great previous work,
Gianluca
|
Wow. I’m sorry that you feel this way. I have done the best I can to make
things work out for as many people as possible. There are other options that
I am looking at to provide issues to everyone, and I am aware of the
audiences overseas. But I had to make some hard decisions. This is one of
them but it at least allows the option of international subscriptions. I’m
sorry that I couldn’t do better at this time.
Joe
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What about printing in Europe and Australia?
Saso
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