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Subject: 
Mac Java Clarification
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lugnet.lego.direct
Date: 
Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:00:55 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
Also, just to recap Tomas from as few days ago, the reason that there is no
support for Mosaic on the Mac is due to the very very poor Java Virtual
Machine (JVM) that the MacOS uses. There are so many problems with it, that
it caused major problems in the initial coding. That is all I know at this
point, more to come.

Jake,

I know other people have commented on this item, but I wanted to clarify a
few things. I work at Apple and used to work very closely with the MRJ
(Macintosh runtime for Java) team in their developer support organization.
It sounds like the problems you are talking about are because your engineers
were working with Netscape which had a 4+ year old Java 1.0 virtual machine
that quite honestly did not work very well. For running Java on a Mac, the
preferred browser is Microsoft Internet Explorer (although there is a
Netscape plugin which will allow Navigator or Communicator to use Apple's
MRJ VM). The current VM is 2.2.4 which is a full implentation of Sun's 1.1.8
Java spec (which passes the Java Certification Suite and is certified by Sun
as well as Gold certified to run Oracle).

If your engineers are having problems, I would be happy to put them in touch
with our developer relations organization which can help them with their
porting problems. Unless they are using Java 2, or an extension that uses
Native code, there is no reason that Mosaic should not just work.

Mac OS X which will ship on the 24th of March provides a complete Java 1.3
environment (with HotSpot) pre-installed.

Hope this Helps,

Michael Hopkins
QuickTime for Java
Apple Computer, Inc



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Mac Java Clarification
 
(...) Michael, Thanks for the great info! I will pass that on down the line! Jake (24 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
  Re: Mac Java Clarification
 
Drastically snipped... (...) Is there anyone that finds this as ironic as I do? To run the great anti MS language on the great anti MS computer from within a browser, the browser that works best is the MS browser. FUT .geek ++Lar (24 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: Mac Java Clarification
 
Here is another useful URL, for the MRJ plugin: (URL) it's included in the current 4.76 distribution too. So, I have tried to run the Brickolizer under the Netscape MRJ plugin with no success. (It is also necessary to spoof the UserAgent string to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Hey, like, is anyone there? (was: When is Mac support coming for LEGO Mosaic?)
 
(...) Greetings All! This is your friendly neighboorhood LEGO producer/AFOL again. My apologies for taking so long to put this response together. I wanted to make sure I can get as much detail as possible, to avoid any misunderstandings, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct) ! 

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