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Re: Wheels in medieval Japan
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Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:25:32 GMT
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:48:30 GMT, "Mike Rayhawk"
<rayhawk@artcenter.edu> wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Zack Stackhouse writes:
> > Along this line of question, what other weapons were used in fuedal japan?
> > I always add armies to the castle series (european, but I have never
> > prepped an army for the ninjas. I have plenty of figures to make
> > an army, I just haven't done it because I don't know what other
> > weapons to give them.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Anybody know of any GOOD movies that represent
> > fuedal japan well?
>
> I haven't seen it yet myself, but from what I hear Akira Kurosawa's "Ran" is
> far and away the best movie for medieval Japanese battles.
"Ran" *IS* fabulous but its late medieval if medieval at all, primary
weapons in it are bows, swords and MUSKET'S. Fabulous scene of the
various sides going back and forth with the advantage swinging one way
or another....
My view is muskets don't belong in castle :^) but other's views may
differ , and rightly so as they are not me!
>
> While ninjas had every kind of bizarre weapon you could think of, traditional
> armies had a very basic assortment of weapons:
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> Some type of longsword (usually a katana), usually accompanied by a shortsword
> and knife. In later times these could only be carried by samurai.
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> A bladed polearm (naginata), which was originally used by samurai but later
> came to be viewed as a peasants' weapon.
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> A longbow (yumi), which was much taller on top than on bottom, in order to
> facilitate its being fired from horseback. This eventually became a samurai-
> only weapon.
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> A musket (arquebus), imported from Europe. Its use was considered dishonorable
> for samurai and was used only by peasant conscripts.
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> The Japanese used cannons as naval armament but as far as I know did not use
> them in land campaigns or in their fortresses. I'm sure someone will correct
> me if I am mistaken.
>
> As a side note, my samurai and bandit armies fought for control of Nagateppo
> Monastery back in February, I don't remember if I ever posted the site here.
> If anyone wants to check it out it's at
> http://www.teleport.com/~rayhawks/games/n-setup.htm . Historical accuracy
> wasn't a big priority at the time so please ignore the many glaring
> anachronisms.
>
>
> - Mike.
Mike
--
All other themes are just spare parts for Castle!
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| (...) I couldn't agree more, muskets don't belong in castle, nor do cannons fot that matter. But since the ninja theme came with 'gunpowder' I figure you just keep the traditional castle away from fuedal japan, except for the occasional encounter. (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
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| I got in on this string a bit late so if I repeat what someone else said I apologize. I was an Asian History major in college and I must say that one of the best movies depicting medevil era Japan is the Movie "Shogun" by James Clavell (spelling?). (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
| | | Re: Wheels in medieval Japan
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| (...) Muskets, from the European standpoint, exit the Castle line, though I do make "hand gonnes" with a "bathroom plunger" and 1x1 round, appropriate to the 1400s. But from the Japanese standpoint, the late 1500s and 1600s are still considered (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) I haven't seen it yet myself, but from what I hear Akira Kurosawa's "Ran" is far and away the best movie for medieval Japanese battles. While ninjas had every kind of bizarre weapon you could think of, traditional armies had a very basic (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
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