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In lugnet.castle, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> I can't think of an alternative for the earth-mage,
How's about geomancer?
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> > I can't think of an alternative for the earth-mage,
>
> How's about geomancer?
>
> -Shiri
[sigh]... Yes, of course...
Excuse me, I have to re-boot my brain now....
[*THWACK*]
[*THWACK*]
[*THWACK*]
There, all better...
(Ignore that hole in the wall next to my desk... ;-)
Thanks,
Franklin
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> > I can't think of an alternative for the earth-mage,
>
> How's about geomancer?
>
> -Shiri
Works for me =]
One of these days, all the geomancers of Castle World will have to get
together. There are getting to be so many that soon they can form their own
faction!
Tony
P.S. I like the look of surprise on the Necromancer's face. It looks like he
didn't expect his picture to be taken!
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Capsule/9142/lego.html
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In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > How's about geomancer?
>
> Works for me =]
Well, that's only natural, since I got the idea from you... :-)
> One of these days, all the geomancers of Castle World will have to get
> together. There are getting to be so many that soon they can form their own
> faction!
LOL! I have a wizardess which I haven't decided whether she's a geomancer or a
plant-Sorceress (plantmancer? ;-)
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > > How's about geomancer?
> >
> > Works for me =]
>
> Well, that's only natural, since I got the idea from you... :-)
>
> > One of these days, all the geomancers of Castle World will have to get
> > together. There are getting to be so many that soon they can form their own
> > faction!
>
> LOL! I have a wizardess which I haven't decided whether she's a geomancer or a
> plant-Sorceress (plantmancer? ;-)
>
> -Shiri
Errr... Hortimancer? =]
Druidess might fit well. In fantasy games, they often have control over Earth,
Plant, and Animal magic. The Druids in one of the early drafts of my Lego
wargame could cast Earth magic.
Tony
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In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> Druidess might fit well. In fantasy games, they often have control over
> Earth,
> Plant, and Animal magic. The Druids in one of the early drafts of my Lego
> wargame could cast Earth magic.
Thanks! Druidess would really be a good title for her...
-Shiri
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Tony Rowe wrote:
> One of these days, all the geomancers of Castle World will have to get
> together. There are getting to be so many that soon they can form their own
> faction!
Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW. It's sort
of like an annual* convention for wizards, sages, sorcerors, philosophers, and
other seekers of knowledge. Wise folk from all over the world travel to
wherever it is being held to gather, exchange information, show off new spells
or enchantments, discuss their research, engage in academic politics, plot
against one another**, party hard at the local taverns***, and all sorts of
similar stuff.
I'm not ready to do this right now, of course, but it's something for all you
people with wizard-characters to keep in mind (and perhaps even work
references to into your storylines...)
J
* - not sure about it being annual...it might be every 5 or even 10 years,
depending. Or it could be held whenever a full moon intersects with the star
Pecares in the Sigil of Omateion, a rare stellar junction...
** - but not act on those plots! The Gathering is a 'neutral' zone where
wizards of all types may meet freely, without fear of coming under attack by
their enemies.
*** - The locals might welcome the Gathering at first because of all the money
it brings in, but they often come to regret their decision after finding out
what several score of drunken mages can do to a town in the name of "fun".
There's a reason the Gathering moves every year...
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
people ;-)
I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
that, I guess! <grin>
This sounds like something I'd enjoy doing. If anyone's interested, drop me a
note, yah?
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Shiri Dori writes:
> This sounds like something I'd enjoy doing. If anyone's interested, drop me a
> note, yah?
Wait, I take that back. If anyone's interested, LMK via .castle.org.cw so that
everyone can be in on the fun!
-Shiri
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Shiri Dori wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
>
> Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> people ;-)
Well, it's happened in the past, but I'd probably be hosting one happening
"now". No reason there couldn't be flashbacks to past Gatherings, though.
The Red Fox will definitely be in attendance, as will the the Grey Wolf...and
of course Dr. Cornelius and his rival, the Learned Sage Liang Chu. I hope
that other folks coming will be able to get along better than these guys!
Maybe a few others - but I'd rather use my various wizardly pieces to recreate
the 'figs of other folks who want to have their characters show up!
> I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> that, I guess! <grin>
Well, Eric, you, me, and Dave are all darn close together. Eric, you
listening? Think the Gathering could rent your inn? Or is your village one
of the lucky few that's been forewarned? >8)
> This sounds like something I'd enjoy doing. If anyone's interested, drop me a
> note, yah?
'ey! I orta know too, on account of it being my idea...:P I want to get a
little bit farther in my Sain/Batu storyline before I start on this
project...but if people want to bandy a few ideas about, that's OK...
J
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Jeff Johnston writes:
> Shiri Dori wrote:
> > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of • the
> > > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
> >
> > Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> > present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> > people ;-)
>
> Well, it's happened in the past, but I'd probably be hosting one happening
> "now". No reason there couldn't be flashbacks to past Gatherings, though.
Alright! In that case, I have three wizards to contribute.
Just to make sure, tho': the zone is totally neutral, yah? (Otherwise they
couldn't all be there <hint, hint>)
> The Red Fox will definitely be in attendance, as will the the Grey Wolf...and
> of course Dr. Cornelius and his rival, the Learned Sage Liang Chu. I hope
> that other folks coming will be able to get along better than these guys!
Ouch. Not mine! But I'm sure that my folks, individually, would get along with
some of yours and vice versa (probably likewise for any other participants).
> Maybe a few others - but I'd rather use my various wizardly pieces to recreate
> the 'figs of other folks who want to have their characters show up!
Well I could just give you mine... in fact if we end up hosting it in Boston
(will you want to host it?) we could work on it together, so I could gladly
join in and contribute to recreation of any minifigs that might be arriving
thru RDPs at any given moment... :-)
> > I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> > to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> > that, I guess! <grin>
>
> Well, Eric, you, me, and Dave are all darn close together. Eric, you
> listening? Think the Gathering could rent your inn? Or is your village one
> of the lucky few that's been forewarned? >8)
I hope Eric will join in. But just to make it clear (for other people): this
is totally NOT location-restricted! Rene (for example) could contribute all
the way from Germany just as well as I could from right here! And likewise for
anyone else, wherever you might be geographically.
> > This sounds like something I'd enjoy doing. If anyone's interested, drop me
> > a
> > note, yah?
>
> 'ey! I orta know too, on account of it being my idea...:P I want to get a
> little bit farther in my Sain/Batu storyline before I start on this
> project...but if people want to bandy a few ideas about, that's OK...
I caught myself in time, and replyed to my own post... didn't mean to steal
your thoughts :-)
This sounds like great fun! C'mon, anyone else?
-Shiri
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Shiri Dori wrote:
>
> In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Shiri Dori wrote:
> > > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > > > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of • the
> > > > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
> > >
> > > Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> > > present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> > > people ;-)
> >
> > Well, it's happened in the past, but I'd probably be hosting one happening
> > "now". No reason there couldn't be flashbacks to past Gatherings, though.
>
> Alright! In that case, I have three wizards to contribute.
>
> Just to make sure, tho': the zone is totally neutral, yah? (Otherwise they
> couldn't all be there <hint, hint>)
Completely neutral. Really. That's the chief rule of the Gathering, and if
anyone breaks it, *all* of the other mages there are expected to, ah, how to
put it..."lay the great big magickal smackdown on them".
So far only one person's been foolish enough to try...Ganchin the Impetuous,
about 450 years ago. After it was all over, the mages gave a heartfelt public
apology to the remaining population of the continent (things got a little out
of hand), but the area remains deserted to this day, except for foolish people
who want to find out if you really *can* still hear Ganchin's screams floating
on the wind.
> > The Red Fox will definitely be in attendance, as will the the Grey Wolf...and
> > of course Dr. Cornelius and his rival, the Learned Sage Liang Chu. I hope
> > that other folks coming will be able to get along better than these guys!
>
> Ouch. Not mine! But I'm sure that my folks, individually, would get along with
> some of yours and vice versa (probably likewise for any other participants).
Oh, great, now they're going to start teaming up...8)
> > Maybe a few others - but I'd rather use my various wizardly pieces to recreate
> > the 'figs of other folks who want to have their characters show up!
>
> Well I could just give you mine... in fact if we end up hosting it in Boston
> (will you want to host it?) we could work on it together, so I could gladly
> join in and contribute to recreation of any minifigs that might be arriving
> thru RDPs at any given moment... :-)
That was indeed my thought, because 2 brains are better than 1, and 3 or 4
(Eric, Dave) are better than 2...
> > > I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> > > to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> > > that, I guess! <grin>
> >
> > Well, Eric, you, me, and Dave are all darn close together. Eric, you
> > listening? Think the Gathering could rent your inn? Or is your village one
> > of the lucky few that's been forewarned? >8)
>
> I hope Eric will join in. But just to make it clear (for other people): this
> is totally NOT location-restricted! Rene (for example) could contribute all
> the way from Germany just as well as I could from right here! And likewise for
> anyone else, wherever you might be geographically.
Absolutely! We'll do everything possible to recreate your 'fig here so you
don't have to risk the vagaries of the Postal Service, but just as the
Gathering consists of wise folk from around the world, this project should
involve people from around our world...
J
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
>
> Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> people ;-)
I can contribute... oh, 10 (12 if there are no rules against liches :) ) magic
users right now... :) That number *will* be going up soon, though... :D
> I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> that, I guess! <grin>
Don't forget about that little event called... Oh, what was it again? Oh,
yes: Brickfest!! Located here in Washington DC this June! :) We can have the
(oh, what the heck, let's steal... err, "borrow" a common name) "Magefair"
then! :)
Jeff
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Shiri Dori writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> > > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
> >
> > Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> > present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> > people ;-)
>
> I can contribute... oh, 10 (12 if there are no rules against liches
No, as long as they behave and don't leave tomb dust and rotting-flesh
messes on the carpet, liches are fine. 8) After all, they probably
attended the Gathering when they were alive, why let death slow you down?
> > I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> > to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> > that, I guess! <grin>
>
> Don't forget about that little event called... Oh, what was it again? Oh,
> yes: Brickfest!! Located here in Washington DC this June! :) We can have the
> (oh, what the heck, let's steal... err, "borrow" a common name) "Magefair"
> then! :)
"The Gathering of the Wise" is the semi-official name, or "The Gathering"
for short. I dunno if I'll be ready this June (or even able to make it
down to DC) though, so that might make it a little difficult.
J
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> > Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW.
>
> Ooooooh!! Count me in, definitely! Depending if this is going on in the
> present or past, I might be able to contribute anywhere from 3 to 6 "wise"
> people ;-)
> I'd be very happy, even, to host the convention, although my inn will be way
> to small to host the whole CW wisemen... We'll need minimum Eric K's inn for
> that, I guess! <grin>
>
> This sounds like something I'd enjoy doing. If anyone's interested, drop me a
> note, yah?
>
> -Shiri
I have a number of mages who are affixing their "Hello, my name is:" badges to
their robes and deciding whether they should attend the "Care and Feeding of
Familiars for Maximum Mana Potential" symposium or to hit the convention floor
and see if they can find an enchanted Backscratcher for a decent price.
Most likely, they'll all just get drunk in the tavern. One of them will pass
out and the other guys will write things like "I am a Hedge Wizard" and
"Picklemancer" on his face with (what else?) a Magic Marker. Then, for a final
trick, they will make all the gold in his pouch disappear and buy another round
for themselves. Won't he be mad when he wakes up!
Watch out for those Hydromancers, though. They have a strange control over
liquids and never seem to get drunk. Also, I've never seen one have to use the
bathroom.
Anyway, I will be developing some of my mages and taking photos and adding them
to the website the next time I get a chance. I've come up with a lot of new
characters, but haven't had time to write about them or even build them.
Tony
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
>
> Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW. It's sort
> of like an annual* convention for wizards, sages, sorcerors, philosophers, and
> other seekers of knowledge. Wise folk from all over the world travel to
> wherever it is being held to gather, exchange information, show off new spells
> or enchantments, discuss their research, engage in academic politics, plot
> against one another**, party hard at the local taverns***, and all sorts of
> similar stuff.
>
> I'm not ready to do this right now, of course, but it's something for all you
> people with wizard-characters to keep in mind (and perhaps even work
> references to into your storylines...)
I have about 8 wizards/wizardesses I could contribute.
Later,
Cj
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> Well, it's not just for geomancers, but I've mentioned the "Gathering of the
> Wise" once or twice, and I would eventually like to do it for CW. It's sort
> of like an annual* convention for wizards, sages, sorcerors, philosophers, and
> other seekers of knowledge. Wise folk from all over the world travel to
> wherever it is being held to gather, exchange information, show off new spells
> or enchantments, discuss their research, engage in academic politics, plot
> against one another**, party hard at the local taverns***, and all sorts of
> similar stuff.
Whenever this happens, I've currently got two templars[1] to send.
Jason
[1] Mage-types with causes, attuned to the subtle social and spiritual patterns
that are used to determine fate[2], able to use warrior weapons.
[2] Okay, reading this over, they kinda sound like Jedi. I guess I just think
the force[3] is a really neat idea. :)
[3] Minus midichlorians. *bleh!* What are these, computer-generated musical
notes you use to disinfect your pool?
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> Whenever this happens, I've currently got two templars[1] to send.
Do these templars have any realation to the templars of Starcraft? If you've
ever played it.
Wilson
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Wilson Raska writes:
> > Whenever this happens, I've currently got two templars[1] to send.
> Do these templars have any realation to the templars of Starcraft? If you've
> ever played it.
Heh. I may be the only computer gaming geek that hasn't. :)
Well, the High Templars in Starcraft are described as psionic aliens capable of
emitting storms of psionic energy and hallucinations, and two of them can join
to make a stronger creature (an Archon).
I modelled my human templars more after a combination of Star Wars Jedi, and
the templar character class in the MUD I play (www.thresholdrpg.com). The MUD
templars are mages which have sacrificed some types of spells in order to be
able to wield weapons. Like Jedi, my templars can manipulate the world around
them, but using magical rather than psionic principles (but NO midichlorians,
yuck).
Another important characteristic is that each (non-starcraft) templar has a
cause, a set of goals that they actively strive for. There are some pretty
horrific evils lurching, shambling, and creeping through my realms, and the
templars are one of the most potent forces keeping them in check.
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> > I can't think of an alternative for the earth-mage,
>
> How's about geomancer?
maybe druid?
:)
Dan
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In lugnet.castle, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> > > I can't think of an alternative for the earth-mage,
> >
> > How's about geomancer?
>
> maybe druid?
Well, a druid was *originally* (before D&D got ahold of it) a Celtic
priest/wise man. The whole "treehugging nature guy" stuff was invented by
Gygax. (Read some of the Irish tales to get a better idea of what druids
really did - I highly recommend the ones about Finn mac Cool and his
Fianna.) So I think "geomancer" would be slightly more correct.
On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, and
technically all of the forms of whatevermancy are forms of divination -
pyromancy would be predicting the future by gazing into flames, for
example. So "geomancer", "pyromancer", and all those other terms aren't
really technically correct either.
(I'm not really sure why the former inaccuracy bothers me more than the
latter.)
J
* - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, • <snip>
> * - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
> Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...
LOL... I love the Greek mythologies but the one thing I don't get is:
The citizens all believed in the prophets, so why the heck did they think they
could change what the prophets said would happen?! (e.g. Titan and Zues,
Oedipus and his Father, and zillions of others :-)
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, • <snip>
> > * - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
> > Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...
>
> LOL... I love the Greek mythologies but the one thing I don't get is:
> The citizens all believed in the prophets, so why the heck did they think they
> could change what the prophets said would happen?! (e.g. Titan and Zues,
> Oedipus and his Father, and zillions of others :-)
Hubris? 8)
The belief that by knowing the future they will be able to change it?
Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
reacted the way he did. If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
message is "Don't Ask!"
J
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > > On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, • <snip>
> > > * - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
> > > Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...
> >
> > LOL... I love the Greek mythologies but the one thing I don't get is:
> > The citizens all believed in the prophets, so why the heck did they think
> > they
> > could change what the prophets said would happen?! (e.g. Titan and Zues,
> > Oedipus and his Father, and zillions of others :-)
>
> Hubris? 8)
>
> The belief that by knowing the future they will be able to change it?
Well, one way or another, they were guillible and stupid <grin, duck, run from
lightning bolts>...
> Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
> Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
> reacted the way he did. If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
> did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
> message is "Don't Ask!"
Or maybe the message is "it's gonna happen one way or another, so don't try
and interfere with Fate". Not that I believe in that.
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
> > Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
> > reacted the way he did. If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
> > did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
> > message is "Don't Ask!"
>
> Or maybe the message is "it's gonna happen one way or another, so don't try
> and interfere with Fate". Not that I believe in that.
Its an eternal question: "By knowing the future, will I be able to change it,
or in knowing the future, will I cause it to happen?" Its interesting to
realise that the only way to know which one is true is to wait for it the
future to arrive. :)
Jeff
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