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KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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lugnet.announce, lugnet.events, lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.loc.us.mi, lugnet.build, lugnet.build.mosaic, lugnet.castle, lugnet.space, lugnet.town, lugnet.trains, lugnet.aquazone
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All 5 statues together

As promised in this teaser thread...

I am happy to (at long last) announce that Milton Train Works™ has been, as overall contractor, with significant help from members of MichLUG, working in partnership with Kellogg’s Cereal City USA™ to provide the statues and displays for their Summer Block Party 2005.

This has been a pretty busy spring for us, and it’s been hard to keep quiet about it! ... but we delivered the display case contents (4 cases, 4 themes, town, castle, space and aquazone) two weeks ago and the statues last week... everything will be on display all summer. For more information please visit the KCCUSA site or their block party page or the Milton Train Works KCCUSA pages, or ask questions here and participants will try to answer!

This never would have come together without a lot of help from a large number of people including:
  • Jim Garrett - Jim helped out with construction on Tony, doing much of the torso musculature.
  • Ken Koleda - Ken did much of the image processing for, and helped out with construction of, the Froot Loops box.
  • “Purple Dave” Laswell - Dave helped with Tony the Tiger, doing the upraised hand, and other details.
  • Chris Leach - Chris was Lead Artist for the Froot Loops box.
  • Nik Pieniazek - Nik was responsible for the undersea display.
  • Spencer Rezkalla - Spencer was Lead artist for Tony the Tiger, by far the largest statue in the project.
  • Steve Ringe - Steve was Lead artist for Pop!®, Steve also had design and fabrication responsibility for all the bases and armatures.
  • Jason Spears - Jason was Lead artist for Snap!® and Crackle!®. Jason also was the display coordinator and the bulk of the display items are his. As President of MichLUG Jason served as the executive liason to the club.
In addition to the above MichLUG members that worked very hard to design, develop and build the displays, the statues and their associated armatures and bases, a special thanks goes out to Aaron Sneary for advice, and to Bob Kojima for Bricksiac. We couldn’t have done it without them!

Also thanks go to a few special sellers who were able to source the parts we needed in the quantities we needed. If you were having a hard time finding good quantities of orange or red 2x4 bricks this spring, now you know why! (I would have preferred to be thanking LEGO® here, but alas, it was not to be)

Lastly we have to thank our spouses, friends and co-workers who all no doubt are tired of how much we talked about how we can’t talk about why we were so busy.

We hope to see folks at KCCUSA this summer, it should be a lot of fun.

Larry Pieniazek

ILTCO | MichLUG | BrickFest


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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lugnet.events, lugnet.build.sculpture, lugnet.announce.moc
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Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:36:02 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   All 5 statues together

(snip info about the show/event/project)

Ugh, can’t believe I forgot announce.moc and build.sculpture! Xposted with FUT set back to .events

   Larry Pieniazek

ILTCO | MichLUG | BrickFest


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:02:38 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.announce, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   All 5 statues together

(snip info about the show/event/project)

Whoa. Not only an impressive display but an amazing oportunity.

Shazam.


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:17:50 GMT
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WOW, What a great project! Tony’s Face is just perfect. Heck all of it just looks Great!

So that’s where all the orange went. ;-)

Christina


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:40:57 GMT
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   We hope to see folks at KCCUSA this summer, it should be a lot of fun.

Larry Pieniazek

Wow! That’s just simply incredible--the characterizations of faces are beautiful--I hope Kellogs was very impressed!

I heard you had orange--we just got some in at our PaB..I only wished it was sooner--I could have sent some your way.

Now, I’m curious..did Kellogs purchase Tony, Snap,Crackle,Pop, and the Froot Loops box? Or, is MichLUG getting it back afterwards?

(I think with the way these looked, Kellogs was impressed and bought them!)

-Scott


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:48:19 GMT
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I knew about the mosaic but had no idea the other sculptures were being made. This is some amazing work! I’m glad i was able to help. It was really cool looking at the ‘how they were made’ pictures. I especially likes seeing the pictures of the printed instructions and the partially completed work. I guess the printed instruction came in handy.


bob


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:34:13 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Bob Kojima wrote:
   I knew about the mosaic but had no idea the other sculptures were being made. This is some amazing work! I’m glad i was able to help. It was really cool looking at the ‘how they were made’ pictures. I especially likes seeing the pictures of the printed instructions and the partially completed work. I guess the printed instruction came in handy.

They certainly did!

That wasn’t the only way that computer power helped on this project either... most of the base/armature engineering was done in CAD (I forget the brand but it’s industrial strength stuff, ProE or CATIA or something) by Steve, and we used a LDrawn partial head model that Steve did to get the brothers to come out looking similar. (there was also the usual PC stuff for a 21st century project... lots of spreadsheets to estimate and track things, submit expenses, lots of email and discussion and filesharing, formal project contracts and status reports and documents and lots of other mundane stuff)

Thanks again for your help, Bob. I particularly appreciated how you were so willing to tweak things when we ran into resolution/placement issues with Bricksiac early on, that really helped us out a lot.

Note for Rob Hendrix’s benefit: Dremel power also played a (small) role, we still have more pics to post...


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:19:37 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Bob Kojima wrote:
   I knew about the mosaic but had no idea the other sculptures were being made. This is some amazing work! I’m glad i was able to help. It was really cool looking at the ‘how they were made’ pictures. I especially likes seeing the pictures of the printed instructions and the partially completed work. I guess the printed instruction came in handy.


Bob..LOL that would be my ugly mug in those pics. holding a printout of the mosaic of the froot loop box(taken by fellow michluger Ken K).It is a great program and credit goes to Ken for the hours he spent coming up with a printout we could use with the right amount of colors.Chris


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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In lugnet.events, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Note for Rob Hendrix's benefit: Dremel power also played a (small) role, we
still have more pics to post...

Quite a few non-purist materials and techniques came into play for the
construction of Tony. Just off the top of my head:

-welded steel
-bolts
-wood
-carpet
-cardboard
-concrete
-glued Lego
-cut Lego
-melted Lego

Spencer


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:13:12 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Scott Lyttle wrote:
  
   We hope to see folks at KCCUSA this summer, it should be a lot of fun.

Larry Pieniazek

Wow! That’s just simply incredible--the characterizations of faces are beautiful--I hope Kellogs was very impressed!

I heard you had orange--we just got some in at our PaB..I only wished it was sooner--I could have sent some your way.

Now, I’m curious..did Kellogs purchase Tony, Snap,Crackle,Pop, and the Froot Loops box? Or, is MichLUG getting it back afterwards?

(I think with the way these looked, Kellogs was impressed and bought them!)

Scott..all 5 of the statues were contracted for and purchased by KCC.Chris Leach.


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In lugnet.events, Scott Lyttle wrote:
  
   We hope to see folks at KCCUSA this summer, it should be a lot of fun.

Larry Pieniazek

Wow! That’s just simply incredible--the characterizations of faces are beautiful--I hope Kellogs was very impressed!

Thanks. I think everyone at Kellogg’s Cereal City USA™ (KCCUSA) is quite pleased with how things turned out. I know we are. We didn’t hear directly from Kellogg Company®(1) corporate.

   I heard you had orange--we just got some in at our PaB..I only wished it was sooner--I could have sent some your way.

I was in Orlando in April and MTW did then look into getting elements for the project from the Disney Village PaB. (MTW had already sourced much of our needs by then, but could have used more if it was available). Unfortunately the pricing (at the K3 at a time level) was not at all competitive with hobbyist resale pricing...

I find that kind of ironic(2), that buying directly from LEGO costs more than getting the parts from hobbyists who buy at retail, sort the parts out, mark them up so they make a reasonable profit, and pay to ship them out again, with turnaround measured in days rather than weeks or months.

Perhaps the LEGO Affiliate program will help alleviate that situation in future.

   Now, I’m curious..did Kellogs purchase Tony, Snap,Crackle,Pop, and the Froot Loops box? Or, is MichLUG getting it back afterwards?

Not sure where MTW would keep them!

   (I think with the way these looked, Kellogs was impressed and bought them!)

Specific contract terms between MTW and KCCUSA are not public, but as Chris disclosed, KCCUSA owns the statues now. The display items, featured here, are on loan for the season.

1 - Note that the Kellogg Company is a separate entity from Kellogg’s Cereal City USA. The trademarking, pluralisation and possessive notation of these and other trademarked names throws me for a loop all the time... Kellogg Company®, Kellogg’s Cereal City USA™, Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes®, Snap!, Crackle! and Pop!®, etc. etc.

2 - but understandable... small one person operations can be nimbler and can do things for lower margins.

++Lar


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:00:23 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

   I am happy to (at long last) announce that Milton Train Works™ has been, as overall contractor, with significant help from members of MichLUG, working in partnership with Kellogg’s Cereal City USA™ to provide the statues and displays for their Summer Block Party 2005.

Great job guys! Therrrre GREAT! (Sorry, couldn’t resist!)

Excellent job everybody. My favorite being Tony the Tigers head. Really captured the essence and look perfectly. Cool to see such high caliber work coming from others out there!

So what do you all think about doing steel and gluing first hand? Makes for interesting building sometimes.... Just hope you all used plenty of ventilation (assuming you used MEK).

Cheers,

Bill Vollbrecht


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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In lugnet.events, Bill Vollbrecht wrote:

   So what do you all think about doing steel and gluing first hand? Makes for interesting building sometimes.... Just hope you all used plenty of ventilation (assuming you used MEK).

All the steel was designed and fabricated by the amazing Steve Ringe - and it worked perfectly the first time we installed it in the statues.

For glue, we used Oatey All Purpose. We glued outdoors and in an open garage with fans running. At the end of the first day I had a little headache. The following day I was fine - either since there was more breeze present outside (or I had already killed off all my protesting brain cells the day before.)

We gained a variety of experiences with this - including Lego sculpting itself. Prior to this project, none of us had any Lego sculpture or mosaic experience!

Spencer


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In lugnet.events, J. Spencer Rezkalla wrote:

   We gained a variety of experiences with this - including Lego sculpting itself. Prior to this project, none of us had any Lego sculpture or mosaic experience!

Spencer is selling himself (and other team members) a bit short here... (1) he’s proved his chops multiple times at multiple scales, and other team members have incorporated mosaics into town buildings in the past as well. But he is right, we did come into this with not a lot of specific experience.

What we DID have going for us though, was the ability to organise and the depth of resources that a relatively large club has, coupled with the financial and project management assets and experiences that MTW as able to bring to bear.

++Lar

1 - not on purpose to be sure, he’s just modest that way.


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Re: KCCUSA Summer Block Party
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In lugnet.events, J. Spencer Rezkalla wrote:
   In lugnet.events, Bill Vollbrecht wrote:

   So what do you all think about doing steel and gluing first hand? Makes for interesting building sometimes.... Just hope you all used plenty of ventilation (assuming you used MEK).

All the steel was designed and fabricated by the amazing Steve Ringe - and it worked perfectly the first time we installed it in the statues.

For glue, we used Oatey All Purpose. We glued outdoors and in an open garage with fans running. At the end of the first day I had a little headache. The following day I was fine - either since there was more breeze present outside (or I had already killed off all my protesting brain cells the day before.)

We gained a variety of experiences with this - including Lego sculpting itself. Prior to this project, none of us had any Lego sculpture or mosaic experience!

Spencer

Cool.... you guys did a great job. Really high quality stuff for a first time! Can’t wait to see more stuff like this.

I burned out all my brain cells long ago with MEK, so I stopped being able to smell the stuff long ago. But at least peanut butter sandwich and the bookshelf are green.... Dang, sorry, that happens once in a while. : )

I will have to try that Oatey and see how that works. I asssume you can get it at Home Depot or Lowes?

Thanks,

Bill


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In lugnet.events, Bill Vollbrecht wrote:
   Cool.... you guys did a great job. Really high quality stuff for a first time! Can’t wait to see more stuff like this.

Thanks!

   I will have to try that Oatey and see how that works. I asssume you can get it at Home Depot or Lowes?

Lowes doesn’t seem to carry it, but Home Depot does. Depending on where in the state you are, it runs from $4 to $5 a can. I’m not exactly sure, but I think we went through approx 16 or more cans for the whole project. (Spencer bought the majority of it, maybe he can give a better number.)

Jason Spears | BrickShelf Gallery | MichLUG | CLB


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In lugnet.events, Jason Spears wrote:

   Lowes doesn’t seem to carry it, but Home Depot does. Depending on where in the state you are, it runs from $4 to $5 a can. I’m not exactly sure, but I think we went through approx 16 or more cans for the whole project. (Spencer bought the majority of it, maybe he can give a better number.)

I bought 9 cans myself and we went through almost all of them (not all on Tony however).

One of the interesting lessons we learned about working with glued brick conglomerations is that they don’t dissipate their energy by shattering apart when accidentally dropped like “normal Lego” does... instead, big impacts tend to permanently deform the ABS! (looks away and whistles innocently)

Spencer


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