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  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) If TLC makes Civil war lego sets its a lose/lose situation. If the dont put slaves in the sets they they will be blasted for not dipictiing an inportant part of the civil war. If they do put slaves in the sets the will be blasted for making (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Well, I've never learned of the causes/effects of the U.S. Civil war, so I can't disagree. If the slaves were indeed just an excuse, then certainly TLC could drop them. If they wanted to, that is. (1) (...) Oooh! Guillotines and all the reign (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Personally, it seems to me that there would be an uproar if slaves *were* included in a Civil War theme. I remember a lot of very heated debates in an otherwise calm high school American History class when we discussed the topic of slavery and (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) exclusion (...) deliberate (...) I would disagree with your thoughts on the Civil War not being romanticized or any other war for that matter. I mean just watch Gettysburgh they romanticize the dickens out of Pickets charge. How is that any (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Well, I don't know. They might... I mean, I don't think kids would be really interested in the background behind the scenes - only in the scenes themselves. Especially if they don't already know the background. -Shiri (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) The reason you don't see slaves in the pirate theme is that slaves really aren't part of the romanticized pirate genre. This is also the reason I doubt we will see a Civil War theme, or any other real war theme. They haven't been romanticized. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
In lugnet.western, John Rudy and others write: (...) Maybe one night when my insomnia's acting up! 8^) The U.S. is a culture which, idiotic though it be, recently castigated a public figure for using "niggardly" in a speech! Does anyone seriously (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Don't forget to anger the south, the slaves there were posetions. (SP?) Slavery and the ultimate freeing of the slaves were just minor downfalls of the south. I encourage anyone who doesn't support the lego/Civil war issue because of racial (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Civil (...) Great points! Besides the fact that during the pirate era was most of the slave trading and lego avoided that just as they could with the Civil War sets. David (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
As far as the *need* for slaves in a American Civil War theme, I don't see where there is a need for any. Many historians will tell you that the slavery issue was a very minor point in the entire affair and was only brought up by Lincoln as a reason (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Then why not release them U.S. exclusive at least, I know it would be a big seller in the U.S. (see (URL) ) (...) What were the imperial's in the pirate line? (...) And the Islanders? -John Rudy (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Do you think that people overseas would buy US Civil War Sets? I think they would sell really well in the states. I would love to see Zulu war Sets too.. David (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) I see your point - I know that in Israel nobody learns about the U.S. civil war in schools, especially not in elementary (the age to which LEGO is directed- 5 to 12) and I think not in High or Jr. High schools either. I definitely didn't (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Regardless of what the Civil War *was* about, a lot of the current study and, more importantly, social relevance *is* about slavery. If Lego were making Civil War sets 135 years ago, maybe they wouldn't need to represent slavery. But now, to (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
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(...) neutrality. (...) Thinking from a marketing stand-point, The school history teachers (2-4th grades), not to mention college professors would grab this stuff right off the shelves, not to mention AFOL's and adult and KABOB history buffs. -John (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) Who's to say they would need slaves? The Civil War was more than slavery, the could just concentrate on the battles and not the causes. (soap box mode et drifting off topic) The war was fought over the opression of the North on the South, (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) What sets would you like to see? 1.I think that Jonathan's idea about the Iron Clads is great. 2.A huge earth and wood fort would be great too. 3.A camp set 4.What about a cool bridge that both sides could be trying win. What do you think? I (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
Just give us the tools to (...) Exactly right its up to the parents. And I totally agree with your final sentance there are so many kids who have no idea of their history and the history of their country. -Rich (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) I agree I don't think that they should have slaves in the sets. I don't even think that you have to go so far as making Grant, Lee, and Lincoln minifigs. If you keep races neutral then you should keep names and faces neutral too. Its about (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)
 
  Re: Future Wild West Possibilities
 
(...) neutrality. (...) you (...) I also think that civil war lego is a good idea, but I dont think that they should have slaves in the sets. The civil war should was not just over slavery it was also over states rights, and to this day some people (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.western)


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