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    Help from the train experts ... —Mike Walsh
   In my wanderings in search of suitable pictures, I found this: HTTP://ARCHIVE.TRAIN...0B/331.HTM What do you call this? It is a locomotive that doesn't have a cab. For some reason the term "slug" comes to my memory but I don't know if it is correct. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —Sheree Rosenkrantz
     (...) Well Mike I'm about as far from an expert as you could get, but I am fairly decent at looking things up... 'specially if I'm given a place to start.... "DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES, NAMING How are diesel locomotives identified? North American diesel (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —James Powell
     (...) It's a "B" unit, that is to say, it does not have a crew cab. That's the only difference from a normal unit...it is designed to go in the middle of a consist, and not at the driving end. It's cheaper for the railway, when they are going to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Help from the train experts ... —Kai Brodersen
     I want to say a B unit of a EMD/ 1980 engine something like that. i e-mailed the dude to see if he knew anything (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Just confirming what everyone else is saying, it's a "B" unit. These are less and less common these days as the savings you get on initial purchase from not buying a cab isn't as much as it used to be and the operating flexibility you lose is (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —Harvey Henkelman
     (...) Mike, The locomotive you are describing is an EMD GP60B (B as in booster). 23 of these were built by GM between July and September of 1991. With a 710G prime mover, they develop 3,800 HP. Santa Fe was the only railroad to purchase the cabless (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —David K. Z. Harris
   (...) Strangely, these look like "full-height" units...I say it's odd only because I've only seen this one other time, in Edmonton, and the CN units were between 1/2 and 2/3 as tall as normal units. It seemed like you could put them in front of a (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I'm not sure what CN units you're referring to. (...) No. If they're cut down, they're definitely slugs. Slugs don't need the prime mover, radiator, blowers, dynamic brake vents and cooling fans, etc., since they've been castrated. This GP60B (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —Harvey Henkelman
   (...) A slug runs off the excess current produced by the unit it is mated to. Slugs are used in low-speed service such as switching in a yard, where tractive effort is more important than speed. The vast majority of slugs are old locomotives cut (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Help from the train experts ... —David K. Z. Harris
   (...) OK, so I'm not crazy (not legally, anyway! ;-) I only saw them in a large yard, in Edmonton, near the airport. Never on the roads...and I don't think I ever saw a 'real' "B" unit before the pictures I saw today. (In the SF Bay Area, I'm on one (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
 

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