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Re: Do these LEGO Windows exist???
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lugnet.general, lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:20:44 GMT
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Frank Filz wrote:

Frank Filz wrote in message ...
And while you're at it Frank, please check your classic yellow doors and the 1x6x3 windows.  I
have about 35 of the doors and 8 of the windows, and I've only found 2 types for each  (with and
without holes on top by the studs -  the doors had one or none, and the large 1x6x3 windows had
two or none.  Any other variations???


I've got to run now but I see 5 types of red door (6 if you also count door knob on left or right separately, so potentially this
means 10 types), and 2 each for white (potentially 4 with door knob positions) and yellow (potentially 4 with door knob positions).

Ok, more details, in table form (sorry, this will look horrible in the web view - click on "view raw message" to see in monospaced,
I went hogwild here, all types of classic windows except the tiny ones are represented:

1x2x3 doors

Color  Plastic Knob  Hole Finger   Bumps Glue
Red    CA      right yes  solid    no    yes
Red    CA      left  yes  solid    no    yes
Red    ABS     left  no   slotted  no    yes
Red    ABS     right yes  slotted  no    yes
Red    ABS     ?     yes  solid    yes   ?    (broken)
Red    CA      right yes  solid    yes   no?
Yellow ?       left  yes  slotted  no    yes
Yellow ?       left  no   slotted  no    yes
White  ?       left  no   slotted  no    yes
White  ?       right yes  solid    yes   no

I need to get back to you on details, and on the 1x6x3 windows.

1x6x3 windows

Color  Plastic Holes Fingers   Bumps Glue Ridge (1)
Red    CA      yes   solid     wide  ?    no
Red    ABS     yes   solid     thin  ?    no
Red    ABS     yes   slotted   no    yes  no
Red    ABS     no    slotted   no    yes  no
Red    ABS     no    slotted   no    yes  yes
Yellow ?       yes   slotted   no    yes  no
Yellow ?       no    slotted   no    yes  no
Yellow ?       no    slotted   no    yes  yes
White  ?       yes   solid     thin  no   no  (2)
White  ?       no    slotted   no    yes  no

(1) this is a ridge along the bottom of the sides which, doesn't seem to help hold the glass in, what it actually is is that most of
the side wall (and the top part under the studs) is thinner.

(2) glass happens to pop out easy, is not rectangular, the bottom is somewhat angled from both sides so it sticks down further in
the center

1x6x2 3 paned windows

Color  Plastic Holes Fingers   Bumps Glue
Red    CA      yes   solid     wide  no
Red    ABS     yes   solid     thin  ?
Red    ABS     yes   solid     no    yes
Red    ABS     yes   slotted   no    yes

1x6x2 3 shuttered windows

Color  Plastic Fingers   Bumps Glue Glass(2) Sill (3)
Red    CA      solid     wide  no   2x6      wide
Red    CA      solid     thin  no   2x6      wide
Red    ABS     solid     thin  no   2x6      wide
Red    ABS     solid     thin  no   2x6      narrow
Red    ABS     slotted   no    yes  2x4      wide
White  CA      solid     thin  no   2x6      wide
White  ABS     solid     thin  no   2x6      wide

(1) all have holes
(2) on the ones with 2x6 glass, there is a ridge which supports the glass at each side of the whole window, in addition to the ones
around the openings, also the holes are between the #1/#2 and #5/#6 studs as opposed to between the #2/#3 and #4/#5.
(2) always non-projecting on the ones I have, the two widths look a bit like:

Wide

---- +---++---+ ----
---- |   ||   | ----
---- |   ||   | ----
---- +---++---+ ----
    ============
    ^
    note how it extends to the edge of the shutters

Narrow

---- +---++---+ ----
---- |   ||   | ----
---- |   ||   | ----
---- +---++---+ ----
     ==========
     ^
     note how it lines up with the frame around the pane of glass

1x3x2 windows

Color Plastic Holes Fingers   Bumps Ridge Sill
Red   CA      yes   solid     no    no    projecting
Red   ABS     yes   solid     wide  no    projecting
Red   ABS     yes   slotted   no    no    projecting
Red   ABS     no    slotted   no    no    non-projecting
Red   ABS     no    slotted   no    yes   non-projecting
White ?       yes   solid     no    no    projecting
White ?       yes   slotted   no    no    projecting

1x2x2 windows

Color    Plastic Hole Finger  Bumps Sill
Red      CA      yes  solid   wide  projecting
Red      ABS     yes  solid   wide  projecting
Red      ABS     yes  slotted no    projecting
Red      ABS     no   slotted no    non-projecting
White    ABS     yes  solid   wide  projecting
White    ABS     yes  slotted no    projecting
White    ABS     no   slotted no    non-projecting
Blue     ABS     no   slotted no    non-projecting
Yellow   ABS     yes  slotted no    projecting
Yellow   ABS     no   slotted no    non-projecting

(1) all have a ridge

1x4x2 windows

Color   Plastic Holes Fingers Bumps Ridge Sill
Red     CA      yes   solid   no    no    projecting
Red     ABS     yes   solid   no    no    projecting
Red     ABS     yes   slotted no    no    projecting
Red     ABS     no    slotted no    no    non-projecting
Red     ABS     no    slotted no    yes   non-projecting
White   ?       yes   solid   wide  no    projecting
White   ?       yes   solid   no    no    projecting
White   ?       yes   slotted no    no    projecting
White   ABS     no    slotted no    no    non-projecting
White   ABS     no    slotted no    yes   non-projecting

Frank

Good God Frank, this must have taken you a lot of time!  Thanks for the update.

I think that with CA windows, only the 1x6x2 shuttered window had more than 2 versions.  All other CA windows had only 2 styles - the
1957 version, and the 1958-64 version with sills and ALWAYS with glass (at least that was the way it was sold) and the holes on top
(with the exception of the 2 windows that were only 1 stud wide, they never had any holes on top).

With ABS, there are more versions.  (Note: all yellow windows are ABS - the first ones came out in 1966 in the 325 Shell Station, and
they were ABS).  With the 3 small window types (1x1x1, 1x2x1, 1x1x2), there were some sold with glass and some sold without glass.  I
believe that by the late 1970's, all 3 small sizes had no longer any glass.  All larger size windows were ALWAY sold with glass.

Gary Istok



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Frank Filz wrote in message ... (...) Ok, more details, in table form (sorry, this will look horrible in the web view - click on "view raw message" to see in monospaced, I went hogwild here, all types of classic windows except the tiny ones are (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)

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