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Re: 12 signals in 9V setup (was Re: Blue Electric Track)
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Sun, 13 Feb 2000 03:09:59 GMT
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Frank Buiting wrote:
> Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 38A5FDF2.C56198C0@voyager.net...
> > Frank Buiting wrote:
> > >
> > > [3] I use the signal with my 9V track, Busy Bee sells those signals for • 16
> > > pounds and with minor adjustments 9V trains can be controlled with it. • If
> > > you want some info feel free to mail me how it's done :-)
> >
> > I think this would be of general interest, please consider posting it
> > here!!!
>
> Okay here goes:
> The 12V signal kit consists of four parts:
> 1. Electrical wire
> 2. The signal lights
> 3. Special track
> 4. The controls
>
> Modification for each part:
> 1. The wires are not the problem, it's the connectors. Luckily the 12V
> connectors are easily removed with a screwdriver. Cut the 9V wire and attach
> the 12V connecters to it. Now you have a way to connect the 12V switch to
> your 9V track.
> 2. The signal doesn't need modification, the colour of the lights depend on
> the way + and - are connected.
> 3. The 12V power lines are interrupted on one side creating an isolated
> stretch of track. This is only required on one side. In my setup I have used
> a little saw to cut the metal part in a piece of straight track. Remember
> this is only required on one side! You'll need two of those. (Like in the
> 12V kit there are two of those pieces of track)
>
> Track piece: (aka. bad ascii art)
> ========= rails
> ===||===== rails
> cut here (only the metal part)
>
> 4. The controls don't require any modification at all. But Instead I'll
> explain how the controls work.
> There are two 'output' ports. Depending on what button you press on the
> controls it does the following:
> -Green:
> output #1 connect both wires
> output #2 reverse polarity
> -Red
> output #1 do nothing
> output #2 reverse polarity
> Connecting both wires might sound as creating a short circuit, but for this
> purpose it is not. Effectively you'll create a connection between the track
> and the isolated part.
>
> Putting it together:
> Take the two stretches of track with the cuts on the same side (ideally put
> an extra piece of track between them).
> Now connect the track with a wire (the one with which you normally would
> connect to the speed regular) but instead of connecting it to both sides,
> connect it on the same side of the track, one connection on each side of the
> cut.
> Connect this to the control box (connector closest to the green button).
> When pressing the green button both lines are connected and the current
> flows via the wire to the (formerly) isolated track. Press the red button
> and the track becomes isolated again and the train will stop.
> Next connect a speedregulator (most of us have a spare one ;-)) to feed the
> control box and connect the lights to the other output (make sure that the
> color displayed is corresponding with the lights otherwise flip the cable)
> and it's finished!
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/7000/7777/7777-08.html
> shows in what way the track is wired in 12V. You can see the isolated track
> and the way it is connected to the control box (blue lines on the right
> side). As you can see the lights are on a seperate circuit so if you have a
> 12V transformer you could use it (like me) for controlling the signal's
> lights.
>
> I'll take the parts to work monday and make some pictures with the office's
> digital camera and put the pictures on the web. I'll post a note when I have
> the pictures.
> I hope this explaination was clear enough (English is not my first language)
> but if there are some questions, just ask :-)
>
> -Frank
After reading this then It got me thinking of how you could do it in a full 9v
solution, using the 9v light bricks. Is such a thing possible? How would you
replicate the controller? You could do it with some fancy poll reverser swich,
wire and conducting plate work.
--
Jonathan Wilson
wilsonj@xoommail.com
http://members.xoom.com/wilsonj/
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) element from the Technic Space shuttle and linking to a signal remotely via the fibre-optic cables. The idea is that a passing train operates the rotary element mechanically, turning the signal from green to red to show 'section blocked' to (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 12 signals in 9V setup (was Re: Blue Electric Track)
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| Hello, I have created a fully 9V version of the 7860 (remote controlled signal), but I rarely use it. The isolation afforded by the points usually suffices. If you want more details about the construction, I will have to dig out my notes. It does (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> schreef in berichtnieuws 38A5FDF2.C56198C0@vo...ger.net... (...) 16 (...) If (...) Okay here goes: The 12V signal kit consists of four parts: 1. Electrical wire 2. The signal lights 3. Special track 4. The controls (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.trains)
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