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Re: Steam engine complex wheelbases (was: BBB wheels sales)
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Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:31:15 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Ben Fleskes wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
> > 
> > > <snip>  But the last 2 drive wheels and conneting to a 6 wheeled tender is
> > >  driving me nuts.
> > > 
> > >  Any solutions that someone would care to share?
> > > 
> > >  Mat Clayson
> > 
> > Mat,
> > 
> > What you need is a blind driver - a wheel without a flange.  The blind driver is
> > one of the two new parts that will be introduced at Brickfest.
> > 
> > Ben Fleskes
> > Big Ben Bricks LLC
> 
> Thanks for letting that slip Ben.  I presume the other one is still a secret
> though...
> 
> I did just work out a way of getting a six wheel set around a corner, with
> connecting rods.  It allows one of the middle wheels to fold in on the inside of
> a corner, without pushing the opposite wheel outward.  It uses layers of 1x4
> technic steering plates with a 2-stud axle vertically through the ends as a
> hinge.  A length of flex tubing clipped at one end makes a gentle but precise
> restoring spring.  This lets the brick holding the wheel move independantly of
> its opposite number.  The pin at the middle of the connecting rod is an axle
> pin, which can slip in and out of the wheel hole.
> 
> You have to mount all the wheels on technic twin-hole 1x2 bricks to get enough
> stud space between the front and rear axles, without making the whole wheelbase
> too long to negotiate a corner.  1x1 'Bosch Washing Machine' one-hole technic
> bricks can rotate in place, so aren't suitable for holding axles.
> 
> 
> As for a six-wheeled tender, you can make the middle wheel slide sideways if you
> want it independant.
> 
> My latest wheelbase though has a trailing 2-wheel bogie, so what I've done is
> connect that using a fishplate (a plate pivoted at both ends, to allow snaking).
> The front wheel block of the tender is connected to the other four in the same
> way.  Then, these two floating wheels lock together when you hitch up the
> tender.  I use a magnet and aligning pins, so they don't flex.  They form a
> four-wheel truck of their own.
> 
> Another alternative, if you're not using coupling rods (or if you only couple
> the front two axles), is to let the back two drivers of your engine move around,
> and lock them to the front two wheels of the tender.  That's how my Castle Class
> engine works.  Although on that, this gives you a moving floor in the cab which
> isn't save for minifigs.
> 
> 
> Jason Railton

To Jason
Have you got pictures of your 6 wheeled train, wheelbase ?
I would like to see your idea !

Here is what I did for my steam train
http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=78519

Can't wait to see what new parts Ben has made !
Ben , Will you also be doing an anouncement on lugnet/trains , for the people
that can't make it to BrickFest ?

Thanks , Teunis ,M>ltc



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  Re: Steam engine complex wheelbases (was: BBB wheels sales)
 
(...) I'll put some up shortly. Your cylinders are a little more complex than mine - I use something similar to my Rocket. My whole train fits within 8 studs wide, apart from the odd stud on the end of some half-pins. (I might have to slice these (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Steam engine complex wheelbases (was: BBB wheels sales)
 
In lugnet.trains, Teunis Davey wrote: <snip> (...) Yes. There will be an announcement on lugnet/trains concurrent with the Brickfest announcement. Ben (22 years ago, 30-Jul-04, to lugnet.trains)

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  Steam engine complex wheelbases (was: BBB wheels sales)
 
(...) Thanks for letting that slip Ben. I presume the other one is still a secret though... I did just work out a way of getting a six wheel set around a corner, with connecting rods. It allows one of the middle wheels to fold in on the inside of a (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.trains)

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