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(...) I got the impression that a service pack would be offered to convert the "engine" into a car but the transcript talks about b-units (which I assume is a tail engine). I'm not sure why we need a service pack to do that - was it/is it different? (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.trains, Scott Arthur writes: SNIP (...) The following link may shed some light on the difference between A and B units: (URL) you can see, the B units would require three grey 1x2x2 thin walls with circular window on each side, whereas the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Couple of questions and observations... 1. A & B units - I assume a "B" unit is a non-passenger / non-cargo unit that drives behind the main engine? Correct? So on (URL) B unit is the second unit in the first graphic. 2. Has it been determined if (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) good, but the Sleeper-Lounge-Observation Car is the winner for me. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think the service pack will provide the parts to change the engine into the b-unit - *not* provide the essential b-unit parts you mention... but I'd rather it was your way. (...) Ditto Scott A (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) B units (see my old glossary referenced from the front page of this newsgroup's web interface) are cabless versions of A units. Usually they are mechanically identical except for the omission of controls (or inclusion of greatly simplified (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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A b-unit is like a "slave" locomotive. it carries another power unit equal (i think) in output to the A-unit, but doesn't have a cab, it's directly controlled from the A-unit cab. the reason being that it offered a lot more flexiblilty to the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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If those gray wheels will only be 10020 and not a "Sante Fe Service Pack" then building additional cars will get *very* expensive. If Lego Direct wants to become the 'new Lionel' (see the transcript), I would consider this type of situation a (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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The 10020 has both Stickers and Windows. The side circular windows are an actual piece NOT a sticker. The text 'santa fe' on the sides and front are stickers! See me images on the brickshelf side for real close ups of the engine that they brought to (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) For what it's worth, the S@H rep I spoke to yesterday said that there were already over 600 orders in the system for 10020. Wow. Rick C. (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The above link says the Super Chief B units also carried a steam generator for heating / air conditioning, and the A units carried extra water for the boiler in the B units. ROSCO (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Thanks for that clarification. I said "usually"... your clarification nicely proves what I've repeatedly said in the past... "in railroading there are ALWAYS exceptions". But I'll stick with my usually. The usual major mechanical difference is (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The portholes are 2x2 clear thinwalls that have been printed red or grey. The # tile is printed. The Santa Fe graphics are stickers. (...) Ditto, but I don't mind buying multiple 10020s to build other cars. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) for (...) boiler (...) So the next question is, will the B unit update pack provide some different interior parts that look like a boiler???? ROSCO (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I really like those portholes--for obvious (shipbuilding) reasons. I do hope the service packs include multiple portholes in grey. From the instruction photos I saw, the thinwalls are indeed pre-printed. (...) I only want some of the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) (URL) (A picture of A0001 Santa Fe and John's(?) B-Unit at BricksWest '02) I don't have the indexes up yet, so you can't browse the collection, but other images of the engine at the presentation are in a range from AUT10306 thru 10310. :-) -Z- (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) If a Service Pack does come out I hope it includes the rounded top bricks (either has 2x3 bricks or has the 1x4x2 curved top bricks) in grey as those are hard to come by. Evidence: John's B doesn't have them and thus looks very "wrong". It (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You could but 2 extra Chiefs to build 1 B-unit, as Sandy Kostow did (see (URL) ). But it is a great offer... Jeroen (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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