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I've found the deck can be pretty insubstantial; even in minifig scale, the truss carries the weight. The Notre Dame Bridge is about 320 studs long and has been up for over a year now: (URL) At least, I have heard no news of its collapse. It can (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) (URL) This bridge> had a main span of 96 studs, and could have been more if I had more room on the end to attach the main cables further from the base of the tower. It could also be doubled in length by building the same from the other end. (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, after I built this I realized that I had the technic pins at the top too far apart and should move them each in slightly to form a triangle. Right now the track and track bed are supporting most of the load I think. I pulled out my old (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Dave- If you want your truss construction to actually support the bridge, you should convert your trapezoids into triangles (i.e., break them up by adding verticals in the middle). (Actually, the way many of us do this still makes trapezoids, (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Bruce- You are quite right, but my error is in studs, not feet. (I had an in-the-back-of-my-mi...uite-right feeling even as I wrote the post(s). I think the problem was that I knew that each single tower section was 192 studs long but in the (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hi Tim, I meant that I reposted in the correct forum, and will continue there. Thanks, Mark (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hey, I don't give a newt. t'other Tim might. Although the post hasn't been moved, ( I don't think anyone but admins can move posts.) but don't worry about it. Tim (David) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) And glad to see you recognize and appreciate the ways of python. :-) JOHN FUT.O-T.F (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Thanks John. I do very much appreciate the grace extended here. I've also seen these kinds of mistakes handled badly. So, did they also make this guy you speak of cut down the tallest tree with a herring? Ha! Mark (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) No worries. I'm just glad I got you before the (URL) Evil Tims> did-- they can be sticklers about things like this. Once, I saw them turn a guy into a newt for cross-posting improperly! (he got better) JOHN (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Okay, I moved it to the market forum. Sorry about that guys--my bad. Mark (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Sorry. I come to LUGNET a lot, but it's been a LONG time since I posted here. I think that must have changed. Is there a way to move this, cancel this, or should I just leave it now that it's done? Thanks, Mark (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hi, Mark! They look really good, but it is bad form to post advertisements outside of the (URL) market groups>, even though your item is train related. It is a violation of the TOS. Thanks! JOHN (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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Hi all, I have uploaded a number of my custom LEGO Santa Fe trains into my BrickLink store inventory: (URL) for looking, and if you don't look, then I hope you have a good reason, like you're just sitting down to watch the next episode of "LOST" or (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Aww, c'mon Bruce. All guys like to exaggerate the length of their LEGO bridges when telling others about them. Especially when talking with the ladies. ;-) Sorry Ted...Bruce kinda set me up for this one in a round-about way. :-) -Dave (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Sorry wrong math the bridge were A 10ft (12 32x32 Baseplates) (384 studs) B 15 ft (18 32x32 Baseplates) (576 studs) Also forgot link to current bridge (URL) mike (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) John, Ok, I usually let JT start the NGLTC threads, but I wanted to make things less quiet... As for Brickshelf...well, I forgot my password, and never got a reply for a password reset...and, there was that whole "Brickshelf is closing" (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ted, Sorry, I can not stand it anymore. A 48 stud baseplate is 15" and a fraction. Two at 96 studs would be 30" and a fraction. Four at 192 studs would be 5 feet and a fraction. Therefore 384 studs would be ten feet 3/4 of an inch. Bruce (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Wow! This has all been great information and the pictures are wonderful. I'm really excited to get a closer look at some of these bridges at various shows this summer. :-) I might even have to get out to somewhere where SCLTC is displaying (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Mike- The 192 stud (10 ft) cable-stayed bridged that I posted a picture of earlier in this thread has a middle open span of 96 studs (5 ft). When we originally designed it, we made the deck just 5 plates thick with the intention of having the (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I've never deemed any of your rants to be 'crummy'--what other colourful words I may have used to describe your rants aside... :p And this thread is worthy. At the very least, it's (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) ... Snip ... (...) O be patient ranting one WIP will come and go but MOCs will be announced and posted when it is their time. Ohmmmm ... And to strike a serious note (I am rarely serious) - I fully agree with your point. If I was posting (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I know that you are kidding, but it is for the sake of the poster that I am concerned! This is a crummy, rant thread, unworthy to have MOC posts of others buried in it! Also, it makes it very hard to search for MOCs in the future when things (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) You seem to be rather protective of YOUR thread ;) Are we not worthy? Do we polute your thread? Ooops I appear to have stood on your grass :p Chris (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Sounds great, Scott-- I look forward to seeing them. But why not on Brickshelf? I have to admit that I hesitate going to Flickr-- I just feel more comfy viewing LEGO MOCs on BS. Ahem, and be sure to start your own thread! :-) JOHN (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Dave, I built a 128-stud, truss style bridge for NGLTC shows that's become a staple of the layout. I use ZNAP as structural "members" to go over the tracks. The bridge does not use any support other than the compression between two tables. (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) (snip) John, NGLTC did a train show this past weekend, (Jan 19-20). Due to time constraints, the layout was similar to the one that was done at our last show in November. New parts of the layout included some additional Cafe Corners with an (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well after reading your post one last time before I sent this I realized you wanted info on truss designs for a suspension bridge (like the Golden Gate) not a cable stay. But the second post threw me off due to the same problem I have had that (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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Hello all! We are starting our planning for Brickworld 08 and the train area will be bigger than ever! I've started a Yahoo group for planning discussion, so if you are interested in attending, please sign up (I've sent some invites out, but they (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX) !
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(...) Nah. "Huge" is such a relative term;-) (...) UP had a few turntables that could turn Big Boys; otherwise they would just use wyes. Not sure about modern one, though. JOHN (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Thanks John The only thing I know for certain is that they cost me a lot more than 2 cents! I have built up quite a fleet of some of these cars, I have a sizable unit train of both spine cars (6x3) and bulk carriers (6x2) which are both very (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Here's a 288 stud bridge Bob Kojima built: (URL) next to see a few more pictures. Frank (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I built one a couple of years ago that spans 128 studs, with two tracks. It's pretty minimal. I used double 1x16 technic bricks to support the deck, then combinations of technic bricks for the trusses. The deck is just strips of 2x16 plates (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Dave- All our public images are posted on the (URL) SCLTC website>. This (URL) will take you to every photo that contains a bridge. Just click on the ones that interest you for a larger image. I'll gather some photos of the newest bridge and (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ted, Once again, you come through in spades! You always seem to have the answers I'm looking for. Do you have a Brickshelf folder or image gallery on the web where I can find a bunch of close-up pictures of your truss bridges? I want to get a (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I understand. The standards on LUGNET have sunk to the point where just about *anyone* can post. I mean just *imagine* getting something as basic as that wrong... sheesh... (...) Funny, my students in my 100-level astronomy class said (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic)
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(...) How about some anecdotal pictures? This cable stayed bridge spans 192 studs and this arched truss bridge spans 288: (URL) This over truss bridge spans 192 studs: (URL) This under truss spans 192 studs and passed the 16 pound bowling ball in (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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"Dave Sterling smsrallysport.com>" <dave@ <spamsucks> wrote in message news:Jv2A1L.BAr@lugnet.com... (...) If you use a tensioned string support system underneath, you can go long distances with few parts. -Rob (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains)
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Stacy and I are designing a small layout for Brickworld this year and we want/need to have a bridge in the layout. We've been working to design the layout using banquet tables (so I don't have to bring my own tables), yet we still want an open space (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) That was MORE than two cents worth, Chris! Excellent work! Especially the bethgon, which is a former project of mine:-) And if I might add to you and others who have posted in this thread: please start your own threads with new MOCs and (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jan-08, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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