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  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) than two reissued sets, they were pretty much discontinued in 1997, and with good reason. They have fringed ends, which have proven to be very prone to breaking, if I'm not mistaken. Especially when the fringed ends are attached to studs. And (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Personally I'm happy that they have the studless beams, however, I also hope that they keep having the "old" style stud beams. I tend to stick more to robotics (Mindstorms), my recent trebuchet was a rare deviation away from robotics (it was (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Ahem (URL) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) This: (URL) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Exactly. And the more reinforcements you have to add, the more _extra_ pieces it requires. To my mind, that's no different than requiring a similar number of extra pieces in instances where you desire full System compatibility. (...) Both (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) There's probably no list, but you may guess and check Peeron then. You'll see that: (URL) (Technic Plate 1 x 6 with holes) = dead 1997. (URL) (Technic Bush 1/2 Type 2) = for Technic dead 1997. (URL) (Technic Connector Toggle Joint Toothed) = (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
"jrl" <jrl3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Hrrs2H.1Fy9@lugnet.com... (...) only (...) half-pins can (...) Well, it's give and take. Over the years Lego has released hundreds of pieces that take the product line into new territory - and with that (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:Hrt2yu.yKJ@lugnet.com... (...) pieces to (...) Excellent point. (...) studded (...) parts, to (...) What is a tri-beam? (...) ROTFLMAO! (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Cowans Sheldon 60 ton breakdown crane "31"
 
(...) LOL! I aim to please! And note the liberal use of both studded AND non-studded technic beams! ROSCO Added .technic cos of the beams thang.... (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Building with studded beams doesn't necessarily require a lot of pieces for strength, it just calls for strategic reinforcements. On the other hand, studless designs have requirements of their own because they require a good deal of connector (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Lego Trebuchet
 
(...) Thanks :) It was a fun project. (...) Actually in real scale test of trebuchets that were the same size as the old medieval ones it was determined that the rolling did not hurt the distance. It just tended to put less stress on the (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) Building with the old style of pieces required a lot of pieces to do anything just to strengthen the design enough that it wouldn't rip itself apart. Why is it so much worse that the modern pieces require a few extra pieces if, and only if, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
In lugnet.technic, Jindrich Kubec wrote: <snip> My response is a bit late. I've just been too busy lately, but I'd like to throw in my opinions too: (...) I would imagine that an intelligent 11 year old with some patience and a little building (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Rare find? Service Pack 1116 pre-technic chain links
 
Hi all, I just purchased a sealed Lego (service????) bag with the number 1116 on it (as well as 4074 in smaller font size). It contains 25 pre-technic vintage chain links. You can see a picture here: (URL) have not found any references for this one (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.db.inv, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
You CAN still get the studded beams. For example, if you want black or yellow, get the Crane Truck. The Inventor sets have lots as well (for example, yellow in the Motor Movers and green in the Record & Play) They arent dead. But I do aggree that (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) I didn't say that studless designs were totally incompatible with bricks, only that compatibility is greatly diminished. It is true that technic half-pins can be added to studless beams, but this takes a lot of pieces and these two techniques (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Lego Trebuchet
 
Hey, Cool, Very Cool! I think the overall design of the trebuchet is great. If I am not mistaken I think that you can reduce the "rolling" that the trebuchet makes if you make the weight hinged at the end rather than having it fixed. This will make (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
(...) I didn't say that studless designs were totally incompatible with bricks, only that compatibility is greatly diminished. It is true that technic half-pins can be added to studless beams, but this takes a lot of pieces and these two techniques (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
"jrl" <jrl3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HrnyIK.1s2K@lugnet.com... (...) compatibility (...) impressive (...) in (...) That's just not true. You can add stud-pins to the "studless" beams - and the studs of regular lego sets also fit into the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Studless Technic models
 
"Jindroush" <jindroush@nospam.se...nospam.cz> wrote in message news:4007C89B.935660...spam.cz... (...) Does it matter? (...) I agree, it'd still be nice to be able to get them in bulk packs or something. (...) Maybe they should keep them in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)


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