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Re: Still missing ballots from 5 people
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lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space
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lugnet.build.contests
Date: 
Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:31:04 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
Reminder:  Failure to vote disqualifies your entries.

Y'know...this may be too drastic.  The reason for the above rule was simply
to make sure that someone couldn't indirectly vote for their own entries by
not voting for someone others' entries.  That is to say, because votes cannot
be cast for one's own entries but only for other people's entries, abstaining
from voting effectively lowers (by not raising) the relative point scores of
other people's entries, and that's a problem.

Disqualifying entries submitted by people who failed to vote does solve that
problem.  But it's overkill.  I didn't think it through carefully enough way
back when.

The solution to the problem creates one of two new problems (take your pick):
either it creates a disqualified-entry dilemma (as illustrated by LP) or it
creates a situation in which an entry that might otherwise have won has lost
because its entrant failed to vote (which was the way I'd planned to handle
it).

A completely alternative solution -- one which presents neither of the two
problems just mentioned -- is simply to _subtract_ 3 points from entries where
the entrant failed to vote.  That way, an entry receiving, say, 8 votes, would
still end up with 8 - 3 = 5 points if its entrant didn't vote, and thus it
could still win if no other entry in its category could beat it under the -3
handicap.

In fact, the vote/no-vote rule should simply be:  For each vote point you
have earned, you can choose either to add 1 point to someone else's entry
(subject to the category rules) or subtract 1 point from your own entry (the
entry whose point is being spent).  The default action, if you don't vote,
is the latter:  to subtract 1 point from your own entry.

Sound like a better solution?

--Todd

[followup to .build.contests]



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  Re: Still missing ballots from 5 people
 
(...) I suppose it depends on which "election" your considering. For each category, if someone is trying to improve their own chances, but still votes, then they'll only cast the 1 mandatory vote in that category (because you can't vote for your own (...) (24 years ago, 28-Dec-00, to lugnet.build.contests)

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  Still missing ballots from 5 people
 
Almost all the votes are in, but I still haven't received ballots from the following people: Jay Jacinto <manjingo@yahoo.com> (entry B2) Ashley Glennon <ashley.glennon@mindspring.com> (entries A3 & B7) Christopher Callahan <chriscal@microsoft.com> (...) (24 years ago, 26-Dec-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)

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