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    NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Larry Lesser
   HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- NASA's plans for returning people to the moon -- an objective called for by President Bush in 2004 -- includes establishing a permanent outpost that would be used to prepare for a manned trip to Mars. The moon base would be (...) (18 years ago, 5-Dec-06, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Tony Alexander
   (...) Holy billions and billions, Sa-gan!!! OK, first, 3 days and no reply to the BIGGEST NEWS of this decade?? What's up with that, folks? Are there no more .spacers here? I'll bet the Nation of AFOL could show them a thing or two about building (...) (18 years ago, 8-Dec-06, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —John Neal
     (...) Tony, haven't you heard? First, it was: (URL) Then, the sad truth: (URL) And the final word: (URL) JOHN (18 years ago, 8-Dec-06, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Chris Phillips
     So does that mean "this .space available?" Space! (18 years ago, 8-Dec-06, to lugnet.space, FTX)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —John Neal
     (...) Are you describing the area between the ears of those who like space? (...) I taunt with impunity on their own turf without fear of reprisal. Sad, really. But not really. We still owe them for (URL) this>! :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 8-Dec-06, to lugnet.space, FTX)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Adrian Drake
     (...) It's cold. We're hibernating. Adrian (18 years ago, 9-Dec-06, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Chris Phillips
     (...) At this very moment, avid gamers in NELUG are gathered in New Hampshire having a game of BrikWars that is themed in Classic Space. Now I know it's cold in deep space, but NH? Yikes! (18 years ago, 9-Dec-06, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Jeff Findley
   (...) It should be interesting to see what NASA does, but what I'm hoping for is NASA becoming irrelevant to space travel. That is, I'm hoping that manned commercial space activity passes NASA sometime in the next decade or two. Why? Same reason we (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Neb Okla
     "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@rmspam...mspam.com> wrote in message news:JA4GuG.E05@lugnet.com... (...) Jeff, your post met my sentiments exactly. I'm really glad to see no national flags on the "Mars Mission" sets - and none on the "Life on Mars" (...) (17 years ago, 4-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Brian Davis
     First off, (having missed the start of this thread), I really wasn't all that shook up by the announcment for the simple reason that the announcement doesn't mean anything. Any more than it did with the previous "we're going to Mars" pushes. (...) (...) (17 years ago, 4-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Nathan Todd
      (...) Just wait till we need the water... Sorry to intrude spacers ; ) God Bless, Nathan (URL) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.space, FTX)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Brian Davis
      (...) Actually, exactly the point I was trying to make (you just made it shorter). If there's an economic or resource-driven reason for doing something, commercial interests do a great job. But if you want to go somewhere, trying to invent (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Mike Petrucelli
      (...) Actually space manufacturing will likly be a big business sooner (as in the next few decades) than people might think. Due to the "instant" cooling space permits it is possible to make super strong alloys that are physically impossible to do (...) (17 years ago, 6-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Brian Davis
      [somewhere far away in the internet, a poor soul struggles valiently to stay on-topic... "it's not LEGO!!" he screams, but the siren song of inccorect physics draws him screaming back into the fray once more...] (...) I still have my doubts. It's (...) (17 years ago, 6-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Mike Petrucelli
      (...) I would add *yet* to that. (...) Hmmm... I don't know a town layout on the floor with a "space elevator" to a manufacturing platform way up on a shelf could make a really cool albeit parts intensive MOC. -Mike Petrucelli (17 years ago, 6-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Brian Davis
       (...) The problem is rockets use reaction mass, and need to carry it along, so the rocket equation enters into everything you do. And honestly a rocket is not a very good way to use the energy: you have to launch at high speed (rocket equation (...) (17 years ago, 6-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
      
           Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Mike Petrucelli
       (...) On the other hand "Space Ship One" already surpassed NASA in efficiency with the use of a "carrier plane" to get a much higher start. Building a plane specifically designed for high altitude super sonic launching of "rocket ships" is one easy (...) (17 years ago, 7-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
      
           Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Brian Davis
       (...) Yep, but it came no where *near* orbital velocity - about a factor of 30 to low in energy. I agree, it's a nice mechanism to get away from the atmosphere problem, but so do balloons (for a far lower cost, actually). no offense to Space Ship (...) (17 years ago, 8-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Aaron M. Sneary
      (...) I did some preliminary studies for building a space elevator. I think with some very significant selective compression of the diameter (and length) of the cable, the anchor station and the cable cars could be done. I was considering the LoM (...) (17 years ago, 7-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Mike Petrucelli
      (...) When I made the suggestion I was picturing a really long version of the 6394 Metro Park & Service Tower "elevator" mechanism. I guess it would work better to use technic racks with a worm gear driven elevator. That could even be motorized. My (...) (17 years ago, 8-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Jeff Findley
     (...) Tourism will be the initial market for suborbital space transports. The prime example of this sort of craft will be Space Ship Two (Virgin Galactic). (...) Actually, I thought that there was already some concern on the part of scientists that (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.space)
   
        Re: NASA IS GOING BACK BABY —Aaron M. Sneary
   (...) snipped (...) Indeed! New Mexico has approved land for Virgin Galatic to build the first international spaceport. Virgin Galatic is even taking applications for employees. (URL) Commercial enterprise will drive down costs and increase (...) (17 years ago, 7-Feb-07, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 

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