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Re: Where does the Life on Mars theme fit in to the LEGO universe?
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Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:19:24 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
In lugnet.space, Matt Hein writes:
In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
This may sound like a weird question but, if Life on Mars is indeed a LEGO
Space theme, why is it not any place in LEGO Space? • <snip>
Basically, this is a rough map of the LEGO space time line:

Town---->Space Port---->Life on Mars---->Classic Space---->Futuron
                          I                                  I
                          I                                  I
                          I                                  I
                          V                                  V
                         / \                           Space Police I
                        /   \                          Space Police II
                  Exploriens Insectoids                /     I        \
                                                Blacktron I  I     M-Tron
                                                Blacktron II I
                                               /     \       I
                                           Spyrius   Unitron I
                                              I              I
                                              I              V
                                              I        Ice Planet 2002
                                              V
                                         Robo Force
                                              I
                                              I
                                              I
                                              V
                                             UFO

Well, I hope that this pretty little map makes some sense to you.

I think MTron was before SPII.  One might also argue that Spyrius had
vehicles that were heavily influenced by some of the Futuron & late Classic.
Otherwise, your mapping is quite interesting.

But I digress.  What we really have here are a few different issues.  First,
the classification system in 'real-life' is vague at times.  If you follow
the printing on the boxes, brochures, web-catalog, etc. it might seem that
LoM is not Space, or that Res-Q is not Town, etc.  The truth is that TLC has
somewhat abandoned the strict classification of sets into major themes
(Town, Castle, Space).  This change started maybe 5 or 10 years ago and was
perhaps a strategy for better marketing.  For us old-schoolers, it can get a
bit confusing, especially with sub-themes that cross over, such as Rock
Raiders or Auquazone(which I still say is Space, as I define Space as
anything theoretically more futuristic than the late 20th century... that of
course now makes Town a historical theme in my mind).  The bottom line is
that these sub-themes can fit into whatever major theme that you, as an
individual collector, want them to.  The only problem is finding it in
databases may be confusing if you think one way while everyone else thinks
another.

The second issue is the fictional Lego universe that some of us have in our
heads.  Some of us seem to want each and every theme and sub-theme to be
linked in some way within this universe, and we want the links to somehow
mirror the real-life connections between sub-themes based on time-of-release
or marketing material.  Others of us, such as myself, gave up on that some
time ago and instead make the sub-themes work for our story, rather than
have the story work for the sets.  This means that themes that don't fit
into our universes are overlooked (except for parts), but sub-themes that do
fit in are collected regardless of where they fit in the real-life scheme.
In any event, how we perceive this fictional theming is completely
subjective based on the whims and imagination of the individual.

So, in both issues, the answer is:  The sub-theme fits in however *you* want
it to.  Be creative and you will find a way for it to fit.

The way I define things for myself, LoM is indeed a sub-theme of Space in
'real-life', but in my imaginary universe that I represent with Lego, LoM
has no place.  What sets I have from that sub-theme I have for parts.

...Oh, and one more note: My vote is that Futuron is indeed a spin off (or
evolution) of Classic, as clearly they use the same Logo on their suits.
Space Police I does the same...

My thoughts,
-Hendo



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  Re: Where does the Life on Mars theme fit in to the LEGO universe?
 
(...) In real life, I do know for a fact that SPII was indeed after M-Tron but what I was hinting in my timeline was that they came after SP I and that SP II had evolved from SP I. As for Spyrius, Robo Force, and UFO, however, I am not so sure about (...) (22 years ago, 18-Sep-02, to lugnet.space)

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  Re: Where does the Life on Mars theme fit in to the LEGO universe?
 
(...) Granted, Town Jr. is not as intricate as normal Town but if you put several hundred bay windows together, it might make a very impressive skyscraper. As for it coming out around the same time as UFO, in real life, Life on Mars came out in 2000 (...) (22 years ago, 16-Sep-02, to lugnet.space)

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