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Re: Where does the Life on Mars theme fit in to the LEGO universe?
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Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:53:23 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Matt Hein writes:
> In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > This may sound like a weird question but, if Life on Mars is indeed a LEGO
> > Space theme, why is it not any place in LEGO Space? Even a link would be
> > nice, such as one to Star Wars. If Life on Mars does not fit into LEGO
> > space, where does it fit into in the LEGO universe? Is it a branch off of
> > Space Port? I seriously doubt it, though the technology looks remarkably
> > similar to technology of that time in the LEGO Earth history. My guess is
> > that the Life on Mars theme predates even Classic Space (in the LEGO Space
> > time line, not in real life) so I guess that Life on Mars is the first, at
> > least in LEGO Space terms, space series.
>
> My guess is it fits somewhere along the linewith UFO, although
> it did come out aroundthe same time as spaceport, but I've seen
> few links between those. I'm guessing their were early UFO
> colonies. Just a theory there.
>
> > Where does Alpha Team also fit into the LEGO universe? Actually, I do not
> > believe that Alpha Team fits anywhere into the other LEGO themes but should
> > be a seperate theme that is listed on the Genres or whatever section that
> > lists the major themes of LEGO sets.
>
> Good question. My guess is that it's a completely separate genre, perhaps
> a lego approach to James Bond or MGS (metal gear solid).
>
> > Galidor also deserves mention as do lesser liked sets. We are preserving
> > the continuity of LEGO here, people, not being biased idiots favoring one
> > set over another. Sure, some sets and product lines are horrible but we
> > must do LEGO a service and show them all. LEGO looks to this web site as
> > their chief source of information. We are also their future, whether we
> > like it or not in life.
>
> Okay, I'm saying galidor would perhaps go towards the action
> figure range or licensed products section. I wouldn't classify it
> in the same range as bionicle, because they both come from similar
> but completely different angles, bionicle being more building
> related.
>
> > While we are on this subject, I thought that I would mention that we need
> > to revamp the whole way that LUGNET is set up. I hate having to resort to
> > looking through a Top View or Tree View map for a particular theme that is
> > mixed up with a whole other bunch of little branches such as CAD drawing and
> > off-topic subjects. I mean, it works nice for an index but I think that we
> > need to be less biased and more truthful in here. We need to include more
> > themes on the main page in order to keep traffic more freely flowing on here.
>
> I guess the main page is more of a rundown on the whole scheme. That's
> why we have the newsgroup page to check out other themes, but I guess
> It wouldn't hurt to have a misplaces themes group, but then that
> would be pretty conflicting, wouldn't you think.
>
> > There are many things that the average person, such as myself, does not
> > understand in LUGNET, such as the hatred of Timmy or of Town Jr. Why has no
> > one raised a whimper about LEGO Creator or the elimination of LEGO Duplo or
> > LEGO Primo? LEGO Duplo was the second biggest market in LEGO next to the
> > other sets, yet no one seems to care about any of those things on here. Why
> > have arguments over the silliest, most corny thoughts that a person could
> > think just to get some twisted, psychotic hatred out towards a little chunk
> > of ABS plastic? Come on, people, there are bigger fish to fry out in the
> > world. Grow up and move on or be immature and be left behind.
>
> I don't get the timmy thing, never have, never will, but I think the
> hatred towards town jr. is basically because some fans long for the
> intricity of sets back inthe eighties, as opposed to the parts
> today, which are basically medleys of certain pieces fused together.
> Don't get discouraged, coming from me, I've basically received the
> brunt of arguments, but I think I'm starting to finally understand
> all of this. Yeah, I do agree with you, though. I think some people
> could be a bit less tense about things. To tell you the truth, I
> rarely ever build with lego, and it's really not much a part of
> my life compared to my writing, school or anime.
>
> > I mean, yes, LEGO does indeed care more about cheap marketing ploys now than
> > actually being concerned about fun back, say like about three or four years
> > earlier, but we could always buy stock in LEGO. When a person owns stock in
> > a company, we become a piece of the machinery of that company. When enough
> > like minded people or a single person gets enough stock of the company, then
> > we basically own the company. A really brilliant person could then cause a
> > boycott and hurt the business of LEGO while at the same time own a lot of
> > stock in LEGO. Of course, we could simply ask LEGO to be nice and allow the
> > classic themes to return but in the end, our voice counts.
>
> Yeah, it does. How many pieces of stock are in a company anyhow? Several
> billion parts?
>
> <<_Matt Hein_>>
> Fellow lego enthusiast
Granted, Town Jr. is not as intricate as normal Town but if you put several
hundred bay windows together, it might make a very impressive skyscraper.
As for it coming out around the same time as UFO, in real life, Life on Mars
came out in 2000 and I think that is what you was talking about to me.
Insectoids and UFO probably descended mainly from the aliens and some humans
and robots while M-Tron and other themes descended from humans and some
other robots.
At one time in the LEGO universe, both in real life and in the time line,
all of LEGO Space was one single group. Both sides agree that Classic Space
was the originator of all of LEGO Space. What happens in the real world,
however, is that some disagree that Futuron did indeed evolve from Classic
Space. Regardless of their words, it has been proven that the craft of
Futuron is indeed very similar to Classic Space so to be more consistent to
my ideas.
Basically, this is a rough map of the LEGO space time line:
Town---->Space Port---->Life on Mars---->Classic Space---->Futuron
I I
I I
I I
V V
/ \ Space Police I
/ \ Space Police II
Exploriens Insectoids / I \
Blacktron I I M-Tron
Blacktron II I
/ \ I
Spyrius Unitron I
I I
I V
I Ice Planet 2002
V
Robo Force
I
I
I
V
UFO
Well, I hope that this pretty little map makes some sense to you.
Jesse Long
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