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  frame RCX reply how
 
Anybody know how to divide the bytes incoming from the RCX IR replies into correct frames, preferably using javax.comm on a Linux/Windows PC? I'm told I might want to: 1) Expect first an exact echo of the command packet. 2) Expect the reply code to (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
You might take apart javastorms: http:/www.javastorms.org They've implemented LNP using javax.comm. (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Thanks for the link, but I meant only to be asking: How do I make sense of RCX replies ... ... when the RCX is first powered and after I download Lego firmware. Help? Curiously, cluelessly, thankfully yours, Pat LaVarre P.S. Do we have no (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
I wish I could give you a direct answer, but I don't know. However, I suspect (as I'm sure you do) that what you are looking for has already been done. Below are three possible sources which you can adopt, co-opt, or reverse-engineer to get where (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
Hi pat, (...) This is what you send reflected by the walls, I think. (...) Bits 0-2 of the opcode tells you the number, with 6 meaning 0 and 7 meaning 1. For some special opcodes it is longer. (...) + 1 start bit I think there's some Java code for (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  framing RCX LNP replies in Java
 
(...) Thanks I reached: src/org/javastorms/lnp/IR.java (...) I think I see ... readMsg accepts what it likes else dies after reading the first distasteful byte. readMsg likes either of xF0 or xF1, then a length byte, then that many bytes, then a (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.java)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Bingo! I reached the bricktools/ of the frame-free: (URL) bytes At a glance, I missed how bricxcc toggles x08 in the command op to let command ops be repeated, but I'd now guess the bricxcc algorithm for framing standard RCX replies is: 1) (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Ah, thanks. Can we therefore conclude 45.8 ms/byte = 11/2400 s/byte for each byte of a burst? (...) Tell me more? Do we mean to say RCX in the middle of a football field echoes less well? Should I discard the echo, rather than checking it for (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Anyone know more specifically where to read how Lejos frames standard RCX IR replies? Does Lejos even include any .java code that runs on the PC? I mean to be asking how a PC should frame the standard replies from Lego RCX fimware, not how a (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.java)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) (URL) bytes Accordingly I'd now guess the firmdl3/rcx_comm.c algorithm for framing standard RCX replies is: (...) 1) Send the bytes of the command packet. 2) Loop to receive up to equally many bytes echoed. If 100ms elapses twice without (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) can be (...) This is the PBAliveOrNot (or ping) packet type. It has the side- effect of reinitializing the toggle bit used to determine repeat packets. Do you have the Minsdstorms SDK? It covers all the standard LEGO packet types in detail: (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Ouch, we may be framing the hex differently here, sorry. The only x10 Ping known to me is the x10/18 command op that gets embedded inside of a packet like x 55 FF 00 10 EF 10 EF to provoke a reply packet like x 55 FF 00 18 E7 18 E7, or vice (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) ... (...) Corrected/ elaborated in [square brackets]. I found my error by comparing bricxcc to a delightfully inaccurate summary of ~kekoa on replies that I built some time ago. Except again, op 63/6B UploadRam I find only in in "LASM Byte (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
Concerning the parsing of LEGO packets, I've found these bits to be useful in coming up with a parsing algorithm: * Packets start with 0x55 * Individual bytes of a packet are sent with little or no delay in between bytes * Packets may or may not (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
"Pat LaVarre" <ppaatt@aol.com> wrote in message news:H9nAFD.7v@lugnet.com... (...) like x (...) byte x (...) course (...) the 4 (...) find (...) 10 EF? I follow you now (helps to look at the actual code ;-)... I would expect that raw byte sequence (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: frame RCX reply how
 
(...) Yes helpful framing rules thanks. (...) Thanks in particular for pointing out the before & after rubbish. Me, just now I began quoting this rule in a fog, somehow not immediately appreciating that: The receive framing in bricxcc withstands (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)

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