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Re: Web Page Update - new syncro/Lego motor internals
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:19:52 GMT
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Paul Speed wrote:
> 
> Bah,
> 
>         And I thought mine was small.  Compared to yours, mine is a
> big hulking behemoth. :)  (I know Wes in real life so I can only hope
> that maybe he was somewhat inspired by my design. ;) )  My linkage
> is completely different and not nearly as clever (although I _thought_
> it was pretty clever), but it does fit within the turn tables like
> yours.

Yes indeed Paul, your model did provide some inspiration.  For others reading
this group...  Paul introduced me to technics about 4 years ago when he showed
me a pair of Star Wars AT-AT style legs he had designed.  Its good for the
creative juices to have other enthusiasts around to bounce ideas off of.  That
is what makes lugnet so valuable - it increases the enthusiastic community
beyond my geographic location.

>         Anyway, in mirroring the left/right steering linkage it looks
> like you may have the same problems I found in my design.  It looks
> as if from your pictures that one of the wheel assemblies is slightly
> out of synch with the others.  My question, does this show up as
> error when driving the 'bot.  This synch problem combined with the
> fact that my design wouldn't allow me to balance my wheel assemblies
> with two wheels thereby causing a weight distribution problem, caused
> my 'bot to slowly veer to the right or left (depending).  This sort
> of nullified the reasons for using the synchro platform in the first
> place so I abandoned my platform for a while.

Yes, the slight sync problem of the wheels causes a slow drift in one
direction.  I didn't realize you had the same problem.  I've grappled with this
problem over and over, and I can't get around it.  A symmetrical placement of
the turntables will eliminate the problem.  You say later in this message that
you're going to adapt the linkage to a four turn-table design - I'm working on
the same thing with the hopes it will develop into an all-purpose platform for
various projects.

>         Also, is there a particular design reason for using the
> pulley's for the drive train?  It seems like a slip in one side or
> the other could also cause the 'bot to become out of "synch".

No reason other than simple connection.  A prior design had longer axles that
allowed a 24-tooth gear to be placed outside the pulleys and a chain to link the
two drive trains together, but I've found that the wheels slip before the
pulleys, so the linkage wasn't needed.

>         This is definitely inspiring.  I think I'll play with this
> a little tonight.  I'm going to try and adapte this to my four
> turn-table design.
> 
>         Good job Wes,
>         -Paul (pspeed@progeeks.com, http://www.progeeks.com/)


Thanks Paul, I consider it a compliment that people are duplicating this design
- so far I have heard from four people (on & off the newsgroup) who are
duplicating this design.  There is another design flaw - the axle that has a
crown gear on one end and 14-tooth bevel on the other must have these gears
squeezed snug - otherwise the steering slips.  I'm working on this one also.

-Wes

> Wes Matchett wrote:
> > 
> > I have two new items on my web page:
> > 
> > A mini syncro drive:
> >   http://www.monumental.com/wesmat/lego/MiniSyncro/MiniSyncro.html
> > 
> > Visual internals of a damaged Lego motor:
> >    http://www.monumental.com/wesmat/lego/motor/Motor.html
> > 
> > -Wes



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  Re: Web Page Update - new syncro/Lego motor internals
 
Bah, And I thought mine was small. Compared to yours, mine is a big hulking behemoth. :) (I know Wes in real life so I can only hope that maybe he was somewhat inspired by my design. ;) ) My linkage is completely different and not nearly as clever (...) (27 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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