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    Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) (fwd) —Jim Choate
   ----- Forwarded message from John A. Tamplin ----- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:26:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Tamplin" <jat@liveonthenet.com> Subject: Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) Sorry, but air is indeed considered a fluid in (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) (fwd) —Shawn Menninga
     (...) Exactly. And from an engineering standpoint (with all due respect to Mirriam Webster et at.) that's the difference between pneumatics and hydrolics. Whatever the media invloved, pneumatic devices operate through the flow of *compressible* (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Kevin Baker
     (...) In lugnet.robotics, Peter Dantic writes: I think you will find that, with the exception of black hole stuff, everything is compressible. It is certainly true to say that a gas is more compressible than a liquid, but there is no defined 'level (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Dennis Clark
      (...) I think that you will find that fluid is not compressable. If fluid were compressable fish could not live 2 miles down, divers couldn't dive and dolphins and whales would be crushed on their very common 700 foot dives. This is all quite true (...) (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Patricia Schempp
      (...) incorrect my friend. if water was not compressable at all there would be no pressure difference from the top to the bottom. Admittedly it is not very easy to do it, but it will compress. Most solids are compressable too. At hight pressures, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Kevin Baker
       (...) easy (...) Like I said, everything is compressible, with the probable exception of the stuff in a black hole. Even the exclusion principle (the law that controls elecron 'orbits' round an atom) is reconed to be overcome by sufficient force (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Compressible fluids —John A. deVries II
      (...) Um, I'm sorry, I honestly didn't want to keep this discussion alive in ANY form but this is silly. The pressure difference from top to bottom results from the weight of the water on top. Period. If I put a 6 ton weight (shades of Monty (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Compressible fluids —Karen Gold
       Thank you, John! Karen (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Compressible fluids —Laurentino Martins
      I think all of you meant with this discussion is that water don't get substantially denser (thick) from the surface to the bottom, right? (...) [ mailto:lau@mail.telepac.pt ] [ (URL) ] -- Did you check the web site first?: (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Robert Munafo
     (...) Dear Mister Dantic, I am sure you carefully thought out your statement about compressibility, but I must point out your intolerably egregious oversights. Specifically, here are several things that cannot be compressed: - Massless particles (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Shawn Menninga
     (...) Disregarding definitions for the moment and returning to the original question (can Lego rightly call those parts hydraulic), can we all agree on the following: 1) There is a large group of fluids whose volume changes *almost* linearly with (...) (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Jacob Schultz
     What will actually happen, if you fill water into the LEGO pneumatic parts? Will they still work? And will they become hydrolics? Jacob -- Did you check the web site first?: (URL) (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         putting liquid into pneumatic elements (was Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Robert Munafo
     (...) The pneumatic compression cylinders, also called "pumps" are not airtight, and they wouldn't be watertight if filled with water. When you push on them they would apply pressure to the water all right, but when you pull on them they would (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) (fwd) —John Bauman
    Jim Choate wrote in message <199908071335.IAA293...sz.com>... (...) Hydraulics implies water(hydr). (...) (25 years ago, 8-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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