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| | | But that is false advertisement in a few senses. Hydrolics involve a liquid, correct me if I'm wrong but that is where the HYDRO comes from. Also, in the pics, they show sparkles in the hydrolics, giving a false impression. This is just like the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | (...) Sure, but some of the sets say that they're spaceships, and I'm pretty sure none of those are actually functional. But I agree - in a technic set, one expects the descriptions to be more about functionality and less about flash. I was (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: The new Super Car —El Barista
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| | | | | Actually, it involves a fluid, not a liquid. Might seem like semantics, but by the scientific definition gases are fluids. (...) -- Did you check the web site first?: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —John A. deVries II
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| | | | | (...) Wrong-o. Sorry to be flameish about this, but generally speaking (approximately) four states of matter are accepted: solid, liquid, gas and plasma. Liquids and gases have fairly distinct differences having to do with the degree of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Curses! Partially foiled! (was: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car)) —John A. deVries II
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| | | | | | | ---...--- At this point, I wonder if this thread could be made hugely more valuable to the LEGO-robotics community: I wonder if anyone would like to write up a short bit about mass-dashpot-spring suspensions and why they are useful from a viewpoint (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —John A. Tamplin
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| | | | | | | (...) Sorry, but air is indeed considered a fluid in fluid dynamics. The flow patterns of any fluid obeys the same general principles, whether it be air, water, oil, etc. You may very well argue that hydraulics implies not just a fluid but a liquid, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —El Barista
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| | | | | | | to pointlessly extend the thread even more, here are actual definitions and not vague etymologies. quote: "hydraulic \Hy*drau"lic\, a. [F. hydraulique, L. hydraulicus, fr. Gr. ?, ?, a water organ; "y`dwr water + ? flute, pipe. See Hydra.] Of or (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Darn those definitions (was: The new Super Car) —Kekoa Proudfoot
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| | | | | | | | (...) To pointlessly extend this discussion even further, here is what I get when I look up hydraulic: 15% webster hydraulic hy-drau-lic \h?^--'dro?-lik\ adj [L hydraulicus, fr. Gk hydraulikos, fr. hydraulis hydraulic organ, fr. hydr- + aulos reed (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Darn those definitions -- ENDED —El Barista
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| | | | | | | | <HUGE SNIP, WE'RE TALKING 5 FOOT SCISSORS SNIP> OK!! My original post was simply to say that calling it hydraulic is not "false advertisement". Maybe misleading advertisement (isn't that redundant?), but technically not false. I'll admit, I'm (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Not that you care... —John A. deVries II
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| | | | | | If anyone isn't unsure, I concede that I goofed with respect to the word "fluid". I still stand staunchly by the distinction between "hydraulic" and "pneumatic". Apologies and all that to whom they are appropriate. ---...--- A small introduction: (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Not that you care... —Stephen Collins
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| | | | | | | (...) RCX (...) The only way I can think of is to fake it. Using the API approach, there's no reason why you couldn't define some persistent data that your code (in VB, C++ or whatever) would write to disk as appropriate. The idea is that a (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Not that you care... —Erik Steffl
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| | | | | | | "John A. deVries II" wrote: ... (...) I hope you'll post anything intersting you find/invent to the newsgroup, since I am interested in that too and I believe there are more of us. when I get around to actually build some robot, I plan to make a big (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Not that you care... —Robert Munafo
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| | | | | | (...) This isn't exactly the type of adaptive mapping you're talking about, but it will give you an idea of the complexity of the task. Go to: (URL) and read the sections on "occupancy maps" and "localization". (...) Right. No persistent variables (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: Darn Those Definitions —Jonathan Woodward
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| | | | (...) but (...) and (...) -Obviously. However, in my dictionary (Columbia), "fluid" includes both gases and liquids, and "hydraulic" says "moved or operated by a fluid". Now, I completely agree that "hydraulic" _ought_ to mean "moved or operated by (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Darn Those Definitions —Matthew Miller
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| | | | (...) Merriam-Webster and OED both say that the word pertains to "water or other liquid". (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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