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Re: recursion (was RE: Would-be hacker queries.)
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Date: 
Tue, 11 May 1999 22:08:27 GMT
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John A. Tamplin <JAT@LIVEONTHENET.stopspammersCOM>
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On Tue, 11 May 1999, Paul Speed wrote:

Important clarification: "data stack" free recursion.  This is
an important significance.  It's really only useful for systems with
no data stack.... or alternately as an interesting conversation piece.

Actually, he goes on to show that in some cases you can eliminate call
stack recursion using simple transforms as well.

What's usually more clever is using data recursion instead
of code recursion, or figuring out that your algorithm isn't recursive
in the first place despite how cool it looked. :)

For example, JVM does this by keeping a frame stack of methods that have
been executed.  The interpreter main loop happily switches from one method
to another by pushing and popping frames, all without recursively
invoking the interpreter (you can get recursion when you call a native
method which then calls a non-native method, but that doesn't happen often).

Any recursive algorithm can always be recoded as an iterative one.  The
iterative one is usually faster and always takes less space (the recursive
algorithm must always store the return address in addition to the data
needed for each step), but the recursive algorithm almost always looks
more elegant :).

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John A. Tamplin skrev i meddelandet ... (...) Are you sure? I have faint memories from University of a function called 'The Ackermann Function' which was 'recursive in all directions', and couldn't be expressed iteratively. Of course, my memory is (...) (26 years ago, 12-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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Hi, Important clarification: "data stack" free recursion. This is an important significance. It's really only useful for systems with no data stack.... or alternately as an interesting conversation piece. What's usually more clever is using data (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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