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Re: Mindstorms (more than just robotics?)
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lugnet.robotics
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Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:18:28 GMT
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stephen p spackman <(stephen@acm.org)antispam()>
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Andrew Seel wrote:
> I personally like the programming, but, there is a MISTAKE! The MISTAKE
> is, when it has a "stack" it does this: When it starts a new stack, it
> does not carry on with the old one. What a mistake! But it is MUCH
> better than Logo, and it is a good source of entertainment. But what a
> MISTAKE it has!
Meaning that it abandons it in the middle? (I don't have Windows, so I
can't try it).
Geoff Seel wrote:
> The handling of stacks and the lack of re-entrancy make it a difficult
> environment for teaching programming in a logical manner (hard to debug
> multi-sensor systems sensibly).
...so you think it's easier to let people walk right into
synchronisation bugs and learn the hard way?
> We have done some work with Logo since
> he was about 8. It was fine as a way of learning to manipulate a turtle
> but the handling of variables is horribly confusing (definition in a
> different format to use).
Well, defintion can't look the *same* as use or you can't assign a scope
to a variable; making a definition and changing it are inherently
different ideas. So how much "different" is a problem?
stephen
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| (...) I believe the behavior is that the old stack only stops if it is the other stack hanging off a particular sensor watcher. But I'm not positive on this. And I'm not sure whether or not duplicating the sensor watcher and splitting the left and (...) (26 years ago, 7-Nov-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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| In message <199811062316.PAA085...ford.EDU>, Kekoa Proudfoot <kekoa@Graphics.Stanford.EDU> writes (...) Feedback from a 10-year old (entirely his own words including e-mail shouting!) ---...--- I personally like the programming, but, there is a (...) (26 years ago, 7-Nov-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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