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(...) One possibility would be to have a compiler that compiles NXT graphical code into ARM code, or NXT executable into ARM code (kind of like a Java just in time compiler). This would bypass the interpreter of the firmware and potentially give you (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) What is the output of the NXT graphical programming environment? I mean the NXT could already have a JIT type execution environment already whereby the graphical IDE generates pseudo-code ("bytecode") and the firmware on the NXT does the (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I don't know the format of the output of the graphical programming environment. The concept of a JIT compiler seems good to me. Dunno where it should exist. on the NXT or on the PC? (...) Could be. (...) I sure hope so. (...) Kev (18 years ago, 23-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Well my understaing of JIT compiler is that its a part of the actual runtime so I'm not sure how it would be on the PC?! Though you got me thinking (dangerous), perhaps the best way to program the NXT is not to run a binary but instead use an (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) This doesn't sound crazy to me. And, I'd be willing to bet the people at LEGO don't think it's crazy, either. Steve (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Thanks Steve! I would definitely like to explore this idea if I'm part of the MDP (unless the NXT already has a high-level protocol!). -aps (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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-- pisymbol <pisymbol@gmail.com> wrote: [SNIP} (...) If I'm chosen as the one of the 100, this is what I will work on, using and abusing the BT communications on the NXT. Right now, I'm working at using the RCX Ir-I2C mindsensors.com interface for (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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Ditto to pretty much everything on this thread. My present robot has a PC running Linux talking to an RCX over IR, using my own (not XML!!) message protocol. For a look at how this can play out, check out what these guys did with some NSA money: (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I think this would be a nice project and prove very useful. (...) I'm not really advocating Java or any language. Personally, I think Java is in appropriate for low-level programming and one is probably best off with C/asm. However, in this (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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