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Re: Lego disclaimers on sites
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lugnet.publish
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Tue, 7 Mar 2000 03:59:01 GMT
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That concentration camp is the STRANGEST model I've ever seen. Actually, I
have to say that the photography and box layout is very well done, but its a
very politically loaded subject. I can see how people in Poland would have
been particularly outraged.
I suppose that the artist was trying to shock the public by mixing something
so benign as LEGO with something so atrocious. It certainly did bring a
"paradoxical' feeling to mind when viewing it.
Richard Schamus <legoman34@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Fr06vz.zL@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.publish, Shiri Dori writes:
> > (FUT .publish)
> >
> > OK, one last thing for the day.
> >
> > I was wondering about disclaimers on lego sites. I know it's pretty • cutomary
> > to put up disclaimers on fan-made sites, and part of the lego fair-play • policy
> > (IIRC).
> >
> > But how many people were actually contacted by TLC regarding their sites?
> > And what did TLC ask you, specifically, to do?
> > (I'm not being critical, I'd really like to know)
> >
> > I started my own site (1) not long ago. I put a disclaimer on the front • page.
> > But now I added a disclaimer at the top of each page in the site (first • thing
> > after header). My disclaimer says:
> > "Just to make it clear: The Lego Company does not endorse or support this • site
> > in any way. Visit their site." Whereas 'site' is a link to www.lego.com .
> > I'm not sure if this is enough.
>
>
> > Also, my site's name contains lego ("CastLEGO") - would that have a • potential
> > for future problems with TLC? Did anyone have a problem with lego in the • title
> > of their site, or URL ("shiri_lego")?
> >
> > TIA,
> > -Shiri
> >
> > (1) <plug> http://www.geocities.com/shiri_lego/ </plug>
> Hi Shiri,
> I'll try to, in a limited way, explain to you the evolution of the • disclaimer.
> Just as I started to join the internet community, and RTL/AFOL in general,
> some four years (has it been almost 4 years now?) ago, a great howl was • heard
> from many a person and company/corp/bussiness concern/enterprise, that • their
> intangables were being re-used, subverted, and profit being obtained • through
> false representation of these intangables. This lead TLC (at the time TLG) • to
> send out the hounds, (lawyers) to contrive a list of fair play statements, • and
> to try to prosecute those who did not comply with them.
> So, somewhere in that time period, AFOL's started, like me, putting up • Fan
> based sites, and the numbers of them were popping up like mushrooms after • a
> spring rain. Some of these sites were real good, very few were bad or
> derogitory. TLC's lawyers went after a few of them, or so I've heard, and • they
> were especially sensitive after that artist used Lego to create • Concentration
> Camp based sets and packaged them to look like "real" lego sets. (If you
> haven't seen this, you'll probably be freaked out but here's the url:
> http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz.htm).
> But there then there were so many of us that I think that the finally
> realized that beating up some of us legally, was really just bashing
> themselves, and that "we" AFOL were policing ourselves well enough. I've • never
> been contacted by any representatives of TLC, for good or bad. I've also • have
> a whole Disclaimer page on my site, which does try to focus on the issues • that
> Lego would be concerned about. I've even made it a point to email them to • say,
> hey would it be ok to use your symbol, only and just only to point people • back
> to your site, much the way that Mega Bloks said that I could do with their
> symbol, (yes they did respond and helped me shape the statement, so Todd, • the
> cluetrain manifesto had been working at MB for some time now). Like I • said,
> now answer, so you see what I have there. As far as I'm concerned at this
> time, I've done my web-civic duty and made my statement that my stuff • isn't
> supported by anyone, but me. It's smart to do so, it's polite, and it • really
> doesn't hurt you, and you can cover a lot of ground if you get other • people's
> stuff on your site.
> I hope this helps.
> Rich
> --
> Have Fun! C-Ya!
>
> Legoman34
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| (...) Why? He is trying to show the _horror_ of it. I have not been to Auschwitz, but I _will_ go the next time I am in Europe. These sets were ment to be stark reminders of what we can and have done to each other. I have friends who won't speak to (...) (27 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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| (...) Hi Shiri, I'll try to, in a limited way, explain to you the evolution of the disclaimer. Just as I started to join the internet community, and RTL/AFOL in general, some four years (has it been almost 4 years now?) ago, a great howl was heard (...) (27 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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